Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Del_Bosque said:
Yea you have to staff it though, people can't work 18 hour days 7 days a week, so you'd be taking vaccinating staff away from working core hours where the need is greatest for them.

NHS frontline staff could be done OOH really as the hospitals are open 24/7 and they could vac each other.

I'm really suprised there hasn't been more fuss over that Lab MP jumping the queue for a vaccine, he should have had the whip removed IMO.
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Agree about the staffing also being an issue, I think it would need lower numbers for later night, and wouldn't be all locations. Midnight might turn out to be an hour or too late (see cleavers' time suggestions). We'll see if it gets addressed, I guess.

Not seen anything about the MP thing.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
Interesting illustration of what happens when a virus becomes more infectious.



Suggests that it's actually worse for it to be more infectious than it is for it to be more deadly.
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Based on the 1.1 and 5 day turnaround it would go from 1000 to the entire UK population in 461 days, then a month later everyone gets it again.
 
On the Isle Of Man after the xmas period we have 7 positive cases and they have just put us on complete lockdown for 3 weeks with no exceptions! Essential shops and garden centres that can deliver only are allowed to stay open along with pubs/cafes that can deliver food. If you are out driving around the police will stop you and ask where you are going to deem if your journey is essential and if it isnt then they will make you go back home. We have been Covid free for 7 months but someone came back from across for xmas, self isolated for 2 weeks, felt fine but then had symptons in the 3rd week and tested positive. The person had been out clubbing etc and seems to have spread the wealth abit but to hopefully knock it on the head everything was announced yesterday and comes in to force midnight tonight.
 
Wife went for a test first thing Monday morning, and hasn't heard anything yet, when i and others i know went for a test we got it back in less than 24hours, are the results taking a little bit longer at the moment? ,if she doesn't hear today can we phone somewhere?
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
i would go, i think the option should be there, You can shop at tesco 24hrs a day. whats more important? Toilet rolls or a vaccination
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I think many people would go and support their family members who need help to get there

It could at a stroke reduce many of the bottlenecks and logistical issues surely?
 
peace frog said:
Wife went for a test first thing Monday morning, and hasn't heard anything yet, when i and others i know went for a test we got it back in less than 24hours, are the results taking a little bit longer at the moment? ,if she doesn't hear today can we phone somewhere?
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I think it depends on how busy the labs are mate. I had one yesterday am so am waiting too. I think I read somewhere that up to 3 days is normal, although like you I know people who got results within 16-24 hrs.
 
It's interesting reading the pile-on that The Telegraph is orchestrating against the government's vaccination programme as it is something you'd expect from the Guardian. The main article is saying that the government is 'refusing' to use the almost 12,000 pharmacy network to deliver the vaccine yet in the live blog they are saying they wil be using them. Why wouldn't they as pharmacies deliver huge numbers of flu jabs every year.

Another main article says the PHE is 'refusing' to work at weekends as the vaccines won't be delivered on Sundays except in emergencies. The fact is you shouldn't need to deliver at weekends as orders can be placed in advance and stock held. It's not 'just in time' advanced manufacturing FFS.
 
cleavers said:
We don't live in the 1940's, and in any case you have no idea of my "generation".

It's impractical I've at least addressed some of the reasons. Shall we get a 3am taxi for the 80 year old to get a jab, from the overly tired jabber, are you paying or is the 80 year old.
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Don't think that you have really

Things do not have to be done in a entirely serial fashion

If an 80+ year old declines a 4am appointment - then they can be scheduled into the next available 'prime time slot' and the 4am appointment offered to the next in the list

I really doubt that there would be any lack of people willing to go early/late and it all helps to get us ahead of the curve.

The only possible reason that I can see against doing it is supply - so it should be planned for and be put into operation the moment that supplies of vaccine are sufficient that there is not impact to availability to prime time
 
Gabriel said:
https://order-order.com/2021/01/04/...spiracy-ignored-real-queue-jumping-labour-mp/

Get yourself a white coat, sling a stethoscope round your neck, and join the queue around last orders...
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Thanks for that - I'd not heard of it at all.
The source is obviously quite biassed (being Guido), but the MP does seem to have essentially admitted standing in a queue for 'leftover'; looks like he should have been in band 4.

He should certainly be instructed to be vocal that people should not do this, and to apologise for advocating it. Difficult to know if that dose would have been wasted if not given to him.
 
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