Donald Trump

[west didsblue]

Yes, of course , a massively divisive person who is only in it for himself. He has no shame or humility. But he isn't as bad as Hitler is he, which was where I came into this discussion? I would suggest it is far easier to make some comparisons between President Xi and Hitler if you wanted.

Try comparing him to Hitler in 1937 not 1945 and you might start to understand. Doubt it though.

 

[Ban-jani]

True hes itching for it, But he hasn't done it? Same as NK. Israel will be there first backed by the US under Biden I suspect.

He nearly did, he executed their most 2nd powerful leader via an illegal drone strike.

I am not defending Iran nor the cretin he killed but that was an act of war and could have resulted in it if Iran were ever so slightly more unhinged than they already are.

 

[Ban-jani]

Try comparing him to Hitler in 1937 not 1945 and you might start to understand. Doubt it though.

I think more early 30’s.

By 37 he was planning and beginning to annex parts of Europe.

But yeah, the parallels are very clear and whilst Hitler comparisons in politics have been ridiculous for decades, this is actually accurate this time.

 

[hilts]

We haven’t stayed silent.

Johnson has said he condemns what’s happened in the Capitol and has called for a peaceful transition of power.

His comments are not quite as strong as Merkel calling for Trump to concede but they’re significantly more strong than what Macron has said. Who has basically just said he believes in American democracy.

God forbid that just for once we could be as strong as Merkel here or maybe just maybe for the first time ever actually be stronger.

Imagine a Dortmund fans off topic forum

“Bloody hell I wish Merkel would show some more balls like the U.K. government has”

Now just accept we are subservient little shits where America are concerned and wonder in how fluent I am when speaking in the German tongue:-)

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

He nearly did, he executed their most 2nd powerful leader via an illegal drone strike.

I am not defending Iran nor the cretin he killed but that was an act of war and could have resulted in it if Iran were ever so slightly more unhinged than they already are.

True no doubt Trumps US have assassinated people with drone and missile strikes, You could call it very hard line gunboat diplomacy to try and keep a threat in line, as an alternative to all out war. They are saying we can hit your top leaders anywhere so back off? The question is how long will this tactic work with Iran?

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

It depends on the specifics I think.

I am happy with what Johnson and Merkel have said to be honest but I am reluctant, as much as it’s a fucking disgrace, for us to get too involved at this point.

What do you want the PM to do? Honest question, I’m interested to hear what you think.

Continue to say this is not consistent with the values of the allies or any civilised democracy, say they will not engage with the Trump administration as it is disfunctional and dangerous, and engage in serious dialogue with the incoming Biden administration to ensure that they have access to the proper functions of govt like intelligence and briefings which the Trump administration have refused to provide them. Continuity and the transfer if power is essential, and that is what Trump has sought to prevent.

 

[west didsblue]

He nearly did, he executed their most 2nd powerful leader via an illegal drone strike.

I am not defending Iran nor the cretin he killed but that was an act of war and could have resulted in it if Iran were ever so slightly more unhinged than they already are.

What also goes unmentioned was the accidental shooting down of the Ukrainian airliner by Iranian forces expecting an imminent attack from the US, an attack that was expected because of the Soleimani assassination and the Iranian response. It wasn't Trump that was directly responsible but it sure as hell wouldn't have happened without Trump deliberately escalating tension in the region to distract from his impeachment. That was just collateral damage as far as Trump was concerned.

 

[west didsblue]

True no doubt Trumps US have assassinated people with drone and missile strikes, You could call it very hard line gunboat diplomacy to try and keep a threat in line, as an alternative to all out war. They are saying we can hit your top leaders anywhere so back off? The question is how long will this tactic work with Iran?

You could also call it a distraction from his impeachment. I know which one is more likely.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Yes, of course , a massively divisive person who is only in it for himself. He has no shame or humility. But he isn't as bad as Hitler is he, which was where I came into this discussion? I would suggest it is far easier to make some comparisons between President Xi and Hitler if you wanted.

Looks like you need this dumbing down even further.

This is my post which encouraged you to join the discussion with a bout of semi-literate sneering:

"This man was as big a danger to the world as Hitler was and I have no doubts that if there had been a conflict whilst he was in power he could easily have been responsible for more deaths."

Now can you see that this post does not say he "is as bad as Hitler"? Pay particular attention to the "was" (that's because he's not in power any more) and also the "if" and the "could". That word is important here because that is a word which means something has not happened.

Is the penny dropping yet or do you only do binary discussions?

 

[kaz7]

I am having difficulty feeling sympathy for the few reps being upset today ,you had the chance to get him removed and you didnt take it , we on here predicted a scorch earth policy if he lost a long time ago

 

[stonerblue]

Yes, of course , a massively divisive person who is only in it for himself. He has no shame or humility. But he isn't as bad as Hitler is he, which was where I came into this discussion? I would suggest it is far easier to make some comparisons between President Xi and Hitler if you wanted.

Ah right. I wouldn't say he was as bad as hitler either. What i do say though is he's almost started a civil war at home and the continued use of 'private contractors (one of his mates firms) in Iraq is a de-facto war by stealth.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Looks like you need this dumbing down even further.

This is my post which encouraged you to join the discussion with a bout of semi-literate sneering:

"This man was as big a danger to the world as Hitler was and I have no doubts that if there had been a conflict whilst he was in power he could easily have been responsible for more deaths."

Now can you see that this post does not say he "is as bad as Hitler"? Pay particular attention to the "was" (that's because he's not in power any more) and also the "if" and the "could". That word is important here because that is a word which means something has not happened.

Is the penny dropping yet or do you only do binary discussions?

Sorry I got to you and got you upset and angry, you just made me smile anyway have a good day Dave.

 

[inbetween]

It remains to be seen what effect the end of Trumps presidency will have on his businesses etc. Previously he was a bit of a comedy media figure but I seriously doubt any media or anything will ever touch him again.

In my mind him and his family are finished both personally and professionally. There is also the fact that no-one wants to be guilty by association either.

When you think of the aftermath to come from Epstein etc too, christ.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Sorry I got to you and got you upset and angry, you just made me smile anyway have a good day Dave.

I've enjoyed exposing your low intelligence, so it looks like we both got something out of it.

 

[dave_blue12]

Looks like you need this dumbing down even further.

This is my post which encouraged you to join the discussion with a bout of semi-literate sneering:

"This man was as big a danger to the world as Hitler was and I have no doubts that if there had been a conflict whilst he was in power he could easily have been responsible for more deaths."

Now can you see that this post does not say he "is as bad as Hitler"? Pay particular attention to the "was" (that's because he's not in power any more) and also the "if" and the "could". That word is important here because that is a word which means something has not happened.

Is the penny dropping yet or do you only do binary discussions?

You are absolutely correct Trump, as President of the United States was as big a threat to the world as Hitler.

Trump is an extreme narcissist meaning he is incapable of empathy and will do absolutely anything to survive and further his own grandiose view of himself.

There are no limits to what such a man will do.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Ah right. I wouldn't say he was as bad as hitler either. What i do say though is he's almost started a civil war at home and the continued use of 'private contractors (one of his mates firms) in Iraq is a de-facto war by stealth.

Definitely big on cronyism, something our own government also seems to excelled at this past year sadly.

 

[west didsblue]

I've enjoyed exposing your low intelligence, so it looks like we both got something out of it.

He doesn't really need any help.
I'm in the fortunate position that he's got me on ignore so I don't have to get into these tedious exchanges with him.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

You are absolutely correct Trump, as President of the United States was as big a threat to the world as Hitler.

Trump is an extreme narcissist meaning he is incapable of empathy and will do absolutely anything to survive and further his own grandiose view of himself.

There are no limits to what such a man will do.

When he was elected the first thing I said to my wife was "Well, if we end up as a pile of ashes it's been nice knowing you". I sat there watching it last night remembering that conversation and feeling such relief that he lost that election.

We haven't seen the end of him, though. I really don't know what's next but his supporter base isn't going away. the USA has even more angry white men that the UK.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

You've seen what he's done 'at home' right??

Are you talking about Ivanka there?

 

[west didsblue]

When he was elected the first thing I said to my wife was "Well, if we end up as a pile of ashes it's been nice knowing you". I sat there watching it last night remembering that conversation and feeling such relief that he lost that election.

We haven't seen the end of him, though. I really don't know what's next but his supporter base isn't going away. the USA has even more angry white men that the UK.

I remember thinking something similar. I'm just relieved it's practically over. I suspect that following yesterday's debacle and his estrangement from most of his cabinet the risk of him pressing the nuclear button has significantly reduced as I believe that any attempt would now trigger the 25th amendment.