2020 US Elections

[mat]

How does society get past all this? The Trump fuelled mess that is America, the clear divisions in this country re Brexit. Will it even get better any time soon? It feels like decency in politics has disappeared off the face of the earth. It's incredibly tribal now. Civil unrest everywhere, and it's only getting worse. Can't help but think the advent of social media has made populism explode to unhealthy levels. Am I being incredibly pessimistic to not really picture a way out of this?

I have faith the majority will finally snap and send all the little children to bed. Covid/Brexit/Trump will change how we live with each other for the better eventually.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

An irrefutable example of the old adage "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes."

What the fuck do people expect if they raid a building of such significant political and historical importance?

I remember being in the USSC as a tourist in about 2006, watching the court in session, and thinking to myself that if I kicked off now I’d definitely be putting my life in danger (a bit like that feeling when you’re at a great height and you think about jumping!).

People have to be responsible for the risks they willingly take and the consequences of their own actions.

That person ultimately only has one person to blame for their death (so to speak) and that’s themselves.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

This was the warm up act. There's nothing that shouts patriot more to your fellow patriots than taking the mick out of 350,000 dead Americans.

I was going to say Darwinism in action, but most of them look like they're old enough to have spawned already.

Clearly misinformed about COVID, and that is on Trump and the media outlets who peddle his bullshit.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

looking good in Georgia. I put a couple of quid on the GOPers yesterday to jinx them. As I did with Trump last year. The decent people of America owe me £20.

Who wants to donate towards my Rags to win the semi bet?

So I lost a £10er last night.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I think that won't work because it isn't possible to pardon someone for a crime that hasn't been litigated. At least I don't think it's possible.

It is possible I believe but the person being pardoned has to admit to the act that they're being pardoned for.

 

[Ban-jani]

I was going to say Darwinism in action, but most of them look like they're old enough to have spawned already.

Clearly misinformed about COVID, and that is on Trump and the media outlets who peddle his bullshit.

Very much so but there’s no excuse if you’re over the age of 14 to not realise hugging people in a pandemic is fucking stupid.

 

[jma]

Trump supporter and US Air Force veteran Ashli Babbitt died after being shot by a plain-clothed police officer as protesters attempted to enter the House Chamber where lawmakers were working to confirm the Electoral College votes

What a waste of a veteran , has to be asked why a single forces support him after what he says about them

There's nothing either more or less worthy about the life of a veteran compared to the lives of anyone else.

This woman will have had a selection of the same human strengths and weaknesses as everyone else and the fact that she worked in a certain profession for a period of her life makes her passing no more or less tragic than that of anyone else in the same circumstances.

The only relevant comparison of stature that you can make on the limited information you have about her is that, purely by doing what she was doing, she was obviously more gullible, hate filled and dangerous than the average person (and the average veteran). None of which is deserving of what happened.

 

[kaz7]

Iran and russia have commented taking the piss

 

[kaz7]

There's nothing either more or less worthy about the life of a veteran compared to the lives of anyone else.

This woman will have had a selection of the same human strengths and weaknesses as everyone else and the fact that she worked in a certain profession for a period of her life makes her passing no more or less tragic than that of anyone else in the same circumstances.

The only relevant comparison of stature that you can make on the limited information you have about her is that, purely by doing what she was doing, she was obviously more gullible, hate filled and dangerous than the average person (and the average veteran). None of which is deserving of what happened.

Anyone that puts their lives on the line deserves praise, i was a forces wife at the falklands time so maybe i am bias

 

[west didsblue]

It is possible I believe but the person being pardoned has to admit to the act that they're being pardoned for.

The tricky bit for trump's enablers is to remember all the specific crimes they've done. It's probably quite a long list.

 

[mat]

Iran and russia have commented taking the piss

They are doing Biden a favour just doing that.

Iran have a golden window to do something naughty with the Mango Mussolini issue but are choosing not too. I doubt the US would afford them the same courtesy if their leader was being a **** disabling their own country.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

The tricky bit for trump's enablers is to remember all the specific crimes they've done. It's probably quite a long list.

Of course the pardon is only good for federal offences as well, not state ones.

 

[mat]

Can anyone else recall a more interesting lame duck presidency period of American history?

 

[west didsblue]

Iran and russia have commented taking the piss

They were bound to. Trump has made the US a laughing stock and their enemies are loving it.

 

[DrBlueBob]

Probably the Muslim contingent didn’t cheer.

Oh, I didn't see them, it must have been because everyone was wearing a mask.

 

[roman totale]

This is a short thread (4 posts) worth reading. Pretty insightful.

They could have done anything in that building today. What they did, by and large, was take selfies and create social media content. That was what really mattered to them.

 

[kaz7]

I saw a women just now say they should have dragged the senators out of the building , i really think they would have , karmella was in there amongst others, it could have been much worse in hindsight

 

[roman totale]

Last night wasn’t all bad

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I think that won't work because it isn't possible to pardon someone for a crime that hasn't been litigated. At least I don't think it's possible.

Richard Nixon's pardon granted by Gerald Ford did exactly that. He was pardoned for crimes he may have committed.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Last night wasn’t all bad

You'd think even a Proud Boy would recognise a riot police line that were in no mood to talk about things.