Coronavirus (2021) thread

[kaz7]

I wonder how it works with the pharmacies ,i have boots who do my many drugs and i have lots of conditions and am sixty in a couple of weeks , here is hoping , soon

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

But when are the next batch due, no point ramping up now and having to stop. Just need to be ready for when the constant supply is there to roll out as fast as it arrives.
If we get to point its stock piling on shelves thats the time to start asking questions.

I dissagree completely, surely to roll out the vaccination program as quickly as possible you need it on the shelves in the fridges not on some delivery truck or warehouses. You always need more in the vaccination centres than you have people waiting for it. Not the other way round which is what is currently happening.

We only have 700 or 1000 vaccination centres and those in charge cant even let them all know when they can expect to receieve the vaccine or how much of which type in advance. Ive just seen it on tv.

You can track any parcel delivered by Amazon, Royal mail, DPD, Hermes etc to any one of 20mill different addresses in the UK and each of those compnaies deliver several million parcels every day.

You can just tell that this has been poorly organised and planned from the off.

 

[mosssideblue]

Which one is that mate?

Western General

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

I wonder how it works with the pharmacies ,i have boots who do my many drugs and i have lots of conditions and am sixty in a couple of weeks , here is hoping , soon

Fingers crossed you get it soon Kaz.

 

[carlosthejackal]

Still nothing for my 86 year old mum in Poynton with asthma and heart medication. I'm surprised she's heard fuck all still.

It seems a bit of a lottery and that’s not a criticism of the Government or NHS , my mum 82 had her second jab today . Hope you hear something soon .

 

[mosssideblue]

I dissagree completely, surely to roll out the vaccination program as quickly as possible you need it on the shelves in the fridges not on some delivery truck or warehouses. You always need more in the vaccination centres than you have people waiting for it. Not the other way round which is what is currently happening.

We only have 700 or 1000 vaccination centres and those in charge cant even let them all know when they can expect to receieve the vaccine or how much of which type in advance. Ive just seen it on tv.

You can track any parcel delivered by Amazon, Royal mail, DPD, Hermes etc to any one of 20mill different addresses in the UK and each of those compnaies deliver several million parcels every day.

You can just tell that this has been poorly organised and planned from the off.

poorly organised and planned or simply slow to get going?

 

[mosssideblue]

I wonder how it works with the pharmacies ,i have boots who do my many drugs and i have lots of conditions and am sixty in a couple of weeks , here is hoping , soon

Back of the que girl, us oldies first :)

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

Still nothing for my 86 year old mum in Poynton with asthma and heart medication. I'm surprised she's heard fuck all still.

Can she get to a main hospital or one of the limited number of sites that can deliver the Pfizer vaccine.? My 80 year old uncle (see post a few minutes ago) is less at risk but he drove himself to Salford Royal.

Hopefully your Mum will get the Oxford vaccine very soon.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

poorly organised and planned or simply slow to get going?

I would say not being able to tell a vaccination centre when and what they are getting in advance of it arriving indicates poor organisation.

 

[kaz7]

Back of the que girl, us oldies first :)

Fight you for it lol

 

[citizen_maine]

I dissagree completely, surely to roll out the vaccination program as quickly as possible you need it on the shelves in the fridges not on some delivery truck or warehouses. You always need more in the vaccination centres than you have people waiting for it. Not the other way round which is what is currently happening.

We only have 700 or 1000 vaccination centres and those in charge cant even let them all know when they can expect to receieve the vaccine or how much of which type in advance. Ive just seen it on tv.

You can track any parcel delivered by Amazon, Royal mail, DPD, Hermes etc to any one of 20mill different addresses in the UK and each of those compnaies deliver several million parcels every day.

You can just tell that this has been poorly organised and planned from the off.

How many years have Amazon, Royal mail, DPD, Hermes etc had to set up these networks/services?

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I would say not being able to tell a vaccination centre when and what they are getting in advance of it arriving indicates poor organisation.

Has anything more come out about the GPs not getting information on whether they were getting it or not?
I've not head anything since seeing a GP saying they hadn't heard about getting supply, and Hancock going to somewhere whose supply had been delayed by 24 hours (a glitch I haven't a problem with, as long as there is a good reason).

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

How many years have Amazon, Royal mail, DPD, Hermes etc had to set up these networks/services?

Precisely, so why not use part of their network. These people use their expertise. But in a completely separate capacity as their day to day running. When they sat down and discussed and planned the vaccine notification, distribution and delivery you would have expected them to have picked up the phone and spoken to those who do this day in day out.

 

[Nellies left peg]

Western General

Would think Royal United will be next its a horrendous place

 

[shemnel]

If UK citizens are vaccinated and, say, France Italy and Germany are 6 or 9 months behind, I wonder if we're going to be allowed to travel out there or if we are going to be banned still based on the risk of picking up a random mutation?

Same applies for areas of SE Asia for example, or South America, what if theyre years behind?

 

[Healdplace]

In England right now - as I posted earlier Kaz - there are 28, 246 in hospital today with Covid and there were 18, 974 at the peak.

But the ventilators are the real concern as we are within a couple of days at the current daily rate of increase here of equalling the number at the peak of the first wave.

Whilst that is a lower ratio of patients to ventilators than in April because we are saving about a third of those who were dying before after going onto these unless numbers slow fast then that will be at capacity in some regions.

London is rising so fast - up from 556 to 961 in just 9 days since Christmas - that is all but doubling - that they are at 96 only a couple of days away from surpassing their peak numbers in April - which was 1057.

North West is a little further away from their peak of 350 in April - having gone up in those 9 days since Christmas by 85 to 260 - but it will not take too much of an uptick to get there and some hospitals in the NW (Merseyside. Cheshire and East Lancashire) are considering requests to send patients to Greater Manchester where the pressure is less acute. So they must be much closer to their local capacity.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Has anything more come out about the GPs not getting information on whether they were getting it or not?
I've not head anything since seeing a GP saying they hadn't heard about getting supply, and Hancock going to somewhere whose supply had been delayed by 24 hours (a glitch I haven't a problem with, as long as there is a good reason).

it was on the news just now. Whats the chance that those two are just the sole ones. There is only 700 odd. It isnt that difficult.

 

[citizen_maine]

Precisely, so why not use part of their network. These people use their expertise. But in a completely separate capacity as their day to day running. When they sat down and discussed and planned the vaccine notification, distribution and delivery you would have expected them to have picked up the phone and spoken to those who do this day in day out.

The vaccine needs to be in a verified refrigeration chain though doesn't it?

 

[mosssideblue]

Precisely, so why not use part of their network. These people use their expertise. But in a completely separate capacity as their day to day running. When they sat down and discussed and planned the vaccine notification, distribution and delivery you would have expected them to have picked up the phone and spoken to those who do this day in day out.

the armed forces have excellent logistic skills which is being utilised. Personally, I understand your frustration, but I would say lets see where we are on Monday

 

[twosips]

Had a walk near the airport today.
Everything was quiet (understandably).
Just felt so empty and sad.
I'm not sure the world will ever recover from this.
It's a tragedy that seems will never ever end.

Don't forget we felt this way in April too, and cases then subsided pretty naturally due to the warm weather (yes, lockdown helped, but I still think the main impact was seasonality) and people were able to sit outside at restaurants and pubs were open and things felt moderately normal for a couple of months. Not perfect, but better...if it can happen then, then its only natural that itll happen again this late spring/summer too. It will. Add the vaccines and relative herd immunity and I hand on heart believe we'll be in an even better place than we were in the warmer months of 2020. I get this is so crushing mate, but don't base your long term expectations off this on the bit that many predicted would be the worse. Scientists knew this winter bit was coming, so we can't let ourselves think this is it forever now. It won't be. This is the hardest bit, and it will improve within a few months. We already know it can get better once, so hang onto that! It's worth remembering. It'll get better soon, cos it simply has to.