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You can tell the quality of a man by how well they lose.

George Bush, a man much criticised, left this letter in the White House for Obama, on his way out:
Jan 20, 2009

Dear Barack,
Congratulations on becoming our President. You have just begun a fantastic chapter in your life.
Very few have had the honor of knowing the responsibility you now feel. Very few know the excitement of the moment and the challenges you will face.
There will be trying moments. The critics will rage. Your “friends” will disappoint you. But, you will have an Almighty God to comfort you, a family who loves you, and a country that is pulling for you, including me. No matter what comes, you will be inspired by the character and compassion of the people you now lead.

God bless you.
Sincerely,
GW
 
Slight tangent this, after flicking round tv channels I came across a religious channel titled Francis and friends. WOW VP Pence bows to the anti christ that is the Pope of Rome and Trump is being betrayed and American way of life trampled by dark forces
 
So they need 19 Republicans if everyone votes?
I think it's likely that Romney would be one.
Yes, and Romney will certainly be one.

I think they can get another five or six more ‘moderate’ Republicans without too much effort due to the pressure they are now under from their various constituencies after the coup attempt.

It’s the other 10 that will be the real challenge.

You're assuming the 48 will vote the same way...
Absolutely no chance they don’t, even with the likes of Manchin.
 
You're assuming the 48 will vote the same way...

Yes - Ted Cruz is in there and he has no spine so anything could happen with him. But beyond that the 48 is solid. Of the 52, that includes the 2 from Georgia who just lost theor seats - Mosow Mitch and others that have broken with Trump. Lots of reasons to not piss of the base but also if they do convict I think that piuts him out of contention for 2024 so that would work well for many and the party in general. In fact it could be the only opportunity to take him out.
 
Yes - Ted Cruz is in there and he has no spine so anything could happen with him. But beyond that the 48 is solid. Of the 52, that includes the 2 from Georgia who just lost theor seats - Mosow Mitch and others that have broken with Trump. Lots of reasons to not piss of the base but also if they do convict I think that piuts him out of contention for 2024 so that would work well for many and the party in general. In fact it could be the only opportunity to take him out.
Yeah, I wasn't being remotely serious.
 
Yes - Ted Cruz is in there and he has no spine so anything could happen with him. But beyond that the 48 is solid. Of the 52, that includes the 2 from Georgia who just lost theor seats - Mosow Mitch and others that have broken with Trump. Lots of reasons to not piss of the base but also if they do convict I think that piuts him out of contention for 2024 so that would work well for many and the party in general. In fact it could be the only opportunity to take him out.
I may have misread your post, but to confirm, Cruz voted ‘Not Guilty’ on both articles of impeachment, so would not be among the original 48 (Article I, which saw Romney become the only Republican that joined the Democrats) or 47 (Article II) that found Trump guilty in the first impeachment proceedings.
 
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