BlueHammer85
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Anyone that walks is a **** !
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Del_Bosque
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Out of interest is anyone else taking vit supplements to boost their immune system.
I’m taking Vit D, Vit C and Zinc
i definitely need that vit D at the moment in winter and WFH
I’m taking Vit D, Vit C and Zinc
i definitely need that vit D at the moment in winter and WFH
kaz7
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Yeah i still have asthma , got a new inhaler , combination of steroid and long acting bronchodilator which is better , some days i breathe like i have smoked all my life and i never have although i was born at home into a joint 120 a day parents so perhaps it just needed a spark to set it off
Generally my ME is still in relapse so there is much more going on than just my lungs
At least on here we can get the !ong covid message out , now we have longer term research published the gov really need to hammer it home , even fit healthy people get long covid , this is goig to be the next drain on the nhs
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People are a huge part of the blame for rises in cases. At every rise there’s been. There’s far too much of this letting people off for their cuntish actions. They are only part of a wider reasoning including haphazard/late decision making from government and the fact it’s a virus that spreads easily, but fuck me are they part of it.
Three days running I’ve felt that there are a lot of people out and about. You just get that feeling, “it doesn’t feel right this!”
A coffee shop near me had about six people inside being/waiting to be served, none of them were standing two metres away from each other, why aren’t they queuing outside? Holland & Barrett was eye-wideningly busy, why aren’t they queueing outside? Three women with no masks on all stood next to each other having a chat in the street, why aren’t they standing apart/where are their masks/what are the playing at? (and it was one of those conversations where you know they aren’t from the same household - “how’s Sandra? oh I haven’t seen her since before Christmas” sort of thing).
Just the general numbers I saw on a walk home from the bus station after work on Wed Thu and Friday this week felt like too many people out and about.
Don’t get me wrong, it’s not like this:
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...which are all unbelievably from last Summer.
But it still feels like too many people when this is a faster spreading strain than we had last year.
There should be far more calling people out for doing the wrong thing, not less, and certainly not any of this absolving blame from the population just because people don’t like to point the finger at the people.
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inchy14
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What about hikers?
kevin horlocks wand
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I am a proud **** and cunts like cunts so my mates tend to be cunts, if you are a **** as well we would like each other .
being a **** is underrated but I think it’s a virtue
i8rags
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If I don’t like cunts, does it make me a ****?
inchy14
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I’m a **** and a proud **** too!
Yeah and ive got my parents on it. We all know its good for the immune system, so it certainly can't help! On Vitamin D and a multivitamins general one.
richardtheref
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As usual you are right. Just lately in Co Durham (the last couple of days), police have started getting on buses and asking people what the purpose of their journey is. However, they are only remindingthem of the rules at present rather than dishing out fines. 1st lockdown I was furloughed but this time have been told due to numbers travelling no one will be furloughed. As you say, not many feel the rules apply to them.
Chippy_boy
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I take your point, but it just sticks in the craw really that the South East always seems to be favoured one way or another. ****ing pisses me off to be honest. Like the billions spent on Crossrail without so much as a murmur, whereas the chance of a decent rail link with the North is scrutinized and criticized to death.
Rammy Blue
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Yes mate, I stocked up on a big load of multivitamins with everything added, from Costco, and also some high strength vit d tablets. Can’t do any harm!
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Yes, Vitamin D in the Winter because of the lack of sunlight.
Foods high in Vitamin D:
Fish, liver, red meat, mushrooms, eggs, green leaves
Foods high in Zinc:
Legumes, nuts, shellfish, garlic
Also having a banana for breakfast every day for potassium, and nuts every day for magnesium.
VITAMIN D EFFECTS ON LUNG IMMUNITY AND RESPIRATORY DISEASES - PMC
Our understanding of vitamin D metabolism and biological effects has grown exponentially in recent years and it has become clear that vitamin D has extensive immunomodulatory effects. The active vitamin D generating enzyme, 1α-hydroxylase, is ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
The Importance Of Zinc In Respiratory Diseases – Asian Scientist Magazine
www.asianscientist.com
Low Potassium (Hypokalemia): Causes, Symptoms, and Treatment
Potassium is an essential mineral. This article describes low potassium symptoms, causes, and possible treatment options.
www.healthline.com
Role of magnesium in regulation of lung function - PubMed
Magnesium and calcium play multiple dynamic roles in pulmonary structure and function. When magnesium is deficient, the action of calcium is enhanced. In contrast, an excess of magnesium blocks calcium. These interactions are important to the respiratory patient because the intracellular influx...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Don’t forget though, that vitamins and minerals need other vitamins and minerals to work together to ensure absorption of each other or they regulate the amounts of each other so you don’t become either deficient or have too much of one or the other.
Vitamin D and calcium
Zinc and copper
Water and protein
Vitamin C and iron
... the list is endless.
So it’s not always just about taking one supplement, it’s about having the full range of them from diet, because if you take one supplement in isolation you might not eat the right foods to synthesise or maximise the effectiveness of the supplement you’re taking.
It’s alright taking iron supplements if you’re iron defincient but if you don’t also eat enough Vitamin C, you won’t absorb that iron.
You can eat all the high protein foods or supplements you want, but if you don’t drink enough water your muscles won’t synthesise that protein.
It’s alright taking a zinc supplement but if you also eat a lot of zinc in your diet, too much zinc will deplete your copper levels.
It’s alright taking calcium supplements if you’re calcium deficient, but if you don’t get enough sunlight or eat enough Vitamin D you won’t absorb that calcium.
So you have to be careful really taking supplements, you’re better off just eating the widest ranging diet you possibly can.
Importantly, too, food is where all these vitamins and minerals come from and the supplemented versions are very often refined and are never as good as the real raw versions in food.
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kaz7
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If you have a look on bbc 1 catch up there is a doco from this week called the truth about the immune system , it explains the immune system basics and the role of supplements , vit d is a must
MikeF
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I'm on vitamin D and zinc. Can't do any harm.
Rammy Blue
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I have one of those nutri ninja blenders and have a smoothie every day with kale, spinach, banana, nuts, frozen fruit and coconut water.Yes, Vitamin D and Zinc. Also having a banana for breakfast every day for Potassiumand nuts every day for magnesium.
VITAMIN D EFFECTS ON LUNG IMMUNITY AND RESPIRATORY DISEASES - PMC
Our understanding of vitamin D metabolism and biological effects has grown exponentially in recent years and it has become clear that vitamin D has extensive immunomodulatory effects. The active vitamin D generating enzyme, 1α-hydroxylase, is ...
The Importance Of Zinc In Respiratory Diseases – Asian Scientist Magazine
Low Potassium (Hypokalemia): Causes, Symptoms, and Treatment
Potassium is an essential mineral. This article describes low potassium symptoms, causes, and possible treatment options.
Role of magnesium in regulation of lung function - PubMed
Magnesium and calcium play multiple dynamic roles in pulmonary structure and function. When magnesium is deficient, the action of calcium is enhanced. In contrast, an excess of magnesium blocks calcium. These interactions are important to the respiratory patient because the intracellular influx...
Add that to the tablets and figure it’s best I can do!
Shadz69
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We've fucked the duck over here in Ireland, the government relaxed things for Christmas and we're suffering now.
Cunting politicians more worried about how they are viewed than doing the hard things that are needed in a pandemic.
If they had gone hard and fast early we would have had some chance, we're a small island so in theory we should have a much better grip of things.
Horrific stories coming from hospitals now, disappointed and disgusted don't come close to describing how I feel this morning.
Cunting politicians more worried about how they are viewed than doing the hard things that are needed in a pandemic.
If they had gone hard and fast early we would have had some chance, we're a small island so in theory we should have a much better grip of things.
Horrific stories coming from hospitals now, disappointed and disgusted don't come close to describing how I feel this morning.
hilts
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Do they have any jobs going? :-)
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Been doing some digging into the sixth dose of the Pfizer vaccine scandal. Or rather should be scandal but as yet isn't.
If you recall the whistle was blown mid December on what was happening on social media by those who has just started issuing the vaccine. Saying that each batch was flagged up as containing FIVE doses but had six instead as extra was added to try to ensure five full doses survived intact.
The government had advised not to use this extra dose for safety reasons but medical staff felt it should be and persuaded the government to change policy and do this from 17 December.
On 18 December I posted this news into this thread and questioned if it was safe but we should presume they had assessed this and it was. And of course we needed all the vaccine we could get as then that was the only one we then had and in limited numbers.
I reposted that 18 December post into here a couple of days ago as Peston had been alerted to the story because things were still not working right three weeks later and it became a new story when he flagged it up.
It now seems that the government DID change their policy on 17 December to advise use of the sixth dose but in the build up to Christmas the message was not fully transmitted and many places administering the vaccine never got told the change and were still disposing of the 'waste' sixth dose.
Up to 120,000 potential vaccinations were discarded as a result of this confusion. As in metaphorically down the sink rather than into arms.
Obviously there will be another side to this story we have not heard yet. But why are these kind of questions not being asked by journalists instead of the ones we tend to get at the press conferences that are all clearly asked directly to feed into some agenda or pre planned item on the news that night in which their 'question' is the story.
It massages egos - look at the question I asked today. But does not do the job of a journalist which is to react to the news and hunt down a story not create news by being part of the story.
Either way it remains unclear if these doses are still being used or disposed of at all facilities.
If you recall the whistle was blown mid December on what was happening on social media by those who has just started issuing the vaccine. Saying that each batch was flagged up as containing FIVE doses but had six instead as extra was added to try to ensure five full doses survived intact.
The government had advised not to use this extra dose for safety reasons but medical staff felt it should be and persuaded the government to change policy and do this from 17 December.
On 18 December I posted this news into this thread and questioned if it was safe but we should presume they had assessed this and it was. And of course we needed all the vaccine we could get as then that was the only one we then had and in limited numbers.
I reposted that 18 December post into here a couple of days ago as Peston had been alerted to the story because things were still not working right three weeks later and it became a new story when he flagged it up.
It now seems that the government DID change their policy on 17 December to advise use of the sixth dose but in the build up to Christmas the message was not fully transmitted and many places administering the vaccine never got told the change and were still disposing of the 'waste' sixth dose.
Up to 120,000 potential vaccinations were discarded as a result of this confusion. As in metaphorically down the sink rather than into arms.
Obviously there will be another side to this story we have not heard yet. But why are these kind of questions not being asked by journalists instead of the ones we tend to get at the press conferences that are all clearly asked directly to feed into some agenda or pre planned item on the news that night in which their 'question' is the story.
It massages egos - look at the question I asked today. But does not do the job of a journalist which is to react to the news and hunt down a story not create news by being part of the story.
Either way it remains unclear if these doses are still being used or disposed of at all facilities.
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hilts
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I stand aside and clap them after all they are only running to stay healthy and protect the nhs, sniff!
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