Coronavirus (2021) thread

[twosips]

It’s less than that mate

I think you might have your figures wrong there mate!

You’ve overestimated there, it is just over 0.1%.

Typo when calculating. In a slightly tipsy, fed up state I didn't notice. Sigh! Apologies

 

[hammocity]

Anyone heard about the craze growing on tik tok to do a in car date night? Rock Paper Scissors between you and the other half to choose the drink, starter, main and dessert. I know of 3 people doing it today, driving to various food outlets and having to drive to 4 different locations. I give up.

Morons

 

[Nellies left peg]

It’s less than that mate

He must right owt one hundrad tymes "I will compleat my maffs homewurk," and English too

 

[cleavers]

Goodness knows where all these people are going in their cars.

It wouldn't appear to be for shopping because the local Morrisons was deserted last time I was in (not been today).

 

[cleavers]

I read that public transport is running at 18% of "normal" levels currently, the first lockdown it was less than 10%, so basically twice the level of public transport usage as the prior lockdown.

It might be nearly twice, but 18% is pretty small, about the same as it was by early May when it had started to creep up again.

 

[squirtyflower]

Typo when calculating. In a slightly tipsy, fed up state I didn't notice. Sigh! Apologies

Maths and alcohol don’t mix.

 

[cleavers]

Typo when calculating. In a slightly tipsy, fed up state I didn't notice. Sigh! Apologies

Even the smaller number is grim.

 

[Healdplace]

Aside from that death number really being closer to 0.1% the other reality is that many of them will have been very elderly with significant underlying health problems who quite likely may not have survived this past year even without Covid.

Does not make it any less tragic for them or the others who were not in this group nor underplay how awful this virus is at decimating families and leaving long term consequences even for the relatively healthy.

But the death numbers stated raw are easily over interpreted.

 

[twosips]

This is telling. Lockdown needs to be stronger than last time due to the new variant, and if anything its considerably less. More people in work I can presume.

 

[artfuldodger]

NHS could vaccinate UK against Covid in five days, says Oxford professor

Bureaucrats are blocking a rollout that could prevent many more deaths, according to Sir John Bell

www.theguardian.com

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

It might be nearly twice, but 18% is pretty small, about the same as it was by early May when it had started to creep up again.

Yes thats true, but the new strain is more contagious, so we need to do better than before, not worse.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

Went out for some exercise today, Cheadle relatively quiet although Kingsway busy, not sure where everyone was going. Didsbury however was teeming with people none of whom cared about how much of the pavement they took up. Ended up walking around the back streets to avoid people. But I did count 22 people in an orderly queue for a coffee. Whilst I understand that independents are struggling, in what world is a coffee shop essential. They should all be closed although I wonder if the government don’t want to bail out companies any longer. The more that open the less they pay out. Why are estate agents open as well or carpet shops. Madness how much retail has suddenly become essential. Vaccine needs to rolled out as quickly as supply allows and people need constantly reminding about social distancing, staying at home etc. And anyone who moans about our so called lockdown should look at lockdowns across Europe and then maybe the moaning might stop

 

[roubaixtuesday]

the other reality is that many of them will have been very elderly with significant underlying health problems who quite likely may not have survived this past year even without Covid.

On average, this isn't true, estimates are around 5-10 years life lost due to each covid death.

 

[BlueHammer85]

still so much focus on the mortality rate.
The whole reason for lockdown is simply to not run out of space in hospitals and having enough beds - that’s what it’s always been about.

 

[Ban-jani]

still so much focus on the mortality rate.
The whole reason for lockdown is simply to not run out of space in hospitals and having enough beds - that’s what it’s always been about.

This is what it is about, you’re absolutely correct but to people who care it’s tragic to see so many souls dying.

 

[BlueHammer85]

This is what it is about, you’re absolutely correct but to people who care it’s tragic to see so many souls dying.

Yes, I was aiming my point at those who say it’s only 0.1% and only the old people etc

 

[Healdplace]

On average, this isn't true, estimates are around 5-10 years life lost due to each covid death.

Won't that be skewed somewhat by the fewer but much younger deaths where they lose up to 70 years of life each versus the older ones where it is much less each even if many more?

Not seeking to minimise what I know from my family members who caught it can be nasty. Not the tragic deaths that do occur plenty of which I agree without Covid would not happen. But this is not like many viruses that is indiscriminate in who it takes down with misfortune of genetics or whatever.

It clearly targets the old and unwell. It does so viciously. But its primary motivation and success comes from high infectivity not mortality. In many ways killing the host is an accident.

 

[Ban-jani]

Yes, I was aiming my point at those who say it’s only 0.1% and only the old people etc

I know mate, that’s my point too, you and I that care see 0.1% of those that get it and old people that die as tragedies.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

This is what it is about, you’re absolutely correct but to people who care it’s tragic to see so many souls dying.

No, it's not. That was the plan when herd immunity was the strategy.

Now, the plan is supposed to be to save lives until vaccinated.

The reality is disarray.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Won't that be skewed somewhat by the fewer but much younger deaths where they lose up to 70 years of life each versus the older ones where it is much less each even if many more?

I think that was median