United thread 2020/21

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jacko74 said:
It's just a shame his campaign is so misguided... any supposed ''hungry'' children are a result of feckless and/or neglectful parents given how generous benefits are for people with kids.

Perhaps he could front a campaign to educate parents on not spending money on i-phones, acrylic nails, tattoos and lip fillers ahead of buying nutritious, value for money food for their offspring?
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Agree with this. In Co Durham they showed one of these meals being delivered to a family. Outside the house, which was on one of those new estates, sat 2 Mercs. When the report went indoors therte was a 50 inch ish tv and 2 laptops sat in the living room. Not sure these are the type of people intended for these school meals.
 
RadcliffeRick said:
I had to check the team sheets, he was listed as being on the pitch but I don't remember him being there. Perhaps stuck in Ferns back pocket
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I thought carefully about putting "for us" rather than "against us". But I obviously chose well - he is player of the month yet again. And we're stuck with de Bruyne, Gundogan, Bernardo and Foden.
 
Wondering if this dodgy rag penalty situation is an official PL gimmick. All the guests on fighting talk are convinced they'll win with a suspicious penalty.
 
mat said:
Wondering if this dodgy rag penalty situation is an official PL gimmick. All the guests on fighting talk are convinced they'll win with a suspicious penalty.
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Rashford has confirmed that they train in how to win penalties. They are very skilful at cheating but no one is prepared to call them out. Has a United player ever been booked for diving? What has happened in the last 12 months has been a scandal. The referees must know what is going on.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
Rashford has confirmed that they train in how to win penalties. They are very skilful at cheating but no one is prepared to call them out. Has a United player ever been booked for diving? What has happened in the last 12 months has been a scandal. The referees must know what is going on.
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Well the game tomorrow will tell us all we need to know.

United this season, but let's not forget the dippers diving antics as well over the last few seasons

Both clubs have been doing it, to the point that it has become comical and embarrassing

That's why klopps words the other day were totally hypocritical

Tomorrow they will be both at it, let's see if the ref takes any action against either of them
 
BlueMoonz1977 said:
Well the game tomorrow will tell us all we need to know.

United this season, but let's not forget the dippers diving antics as well over the last few seasons

Both clubs have been doing it, to the point that it has become comical and embarrassing

That's why klopps words the other day were totally hypocritical

Tomorrow they will be both at it, let's see if the ref takes any action against either of them
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Should be fun 11 lying down in one area 11 in the other
 
AndyTheCatalystMorrison said:
Even if the parents are feckless (which may sometimes, but not always, be the case), does that mean the kids should suffer???
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Of course the kids of feckless and neglectful parents shouldn't suffer hunger or any other depravation for that matter and here in lies the heart of the problem... as it stands we're encouraging and generously rewarding the most workshy and feckless members of society, often people who are barely capable of looking after themselves never mind be responsible for raising children, to sit at home breeding.
At what point do we grasp the nettle and deal with this issue by stopping awarding such generous benefits to people to people who can't afford to have kids and who are too feckless, irresponsible and neglectful to look after hem properly anyway.
 
jacko74 said:
Of course the kids of feckless and neglectful parents shouldn't suffer hunger or any other depravation for that matter and here in lies the heart of the problem... as it stands we're encouraging and generously rewarding the most workshy and feckless members of society, often people who are barely capable of looking after themselves never mind be responsible for raising children, to sit at home breeding.
At what point do we grasp the nettle and deal with this issue by stopping awarding such generous benefits to people to people who can't afford to have kids and who are too feckless, irresponsible and neglectful to look after hem properly anyway.
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I have no desire to get into a prolonged argument about politics on a football forum. I pointed out the obvious problem with your earlier post, i.e. that the kids shouldn't suffer. You say that you agree so let's leave it there.
 
stevemacca said:
Not sure how this arrives on the United thread?
I don't agree with the assumptions/conclusions reached but will defend your right to express them although maybe not on this thread.
I find myself in agreement with St Marcus in saying 'whatever the political affilations, can we just start with the notion, 'its not right for a child to go to bed hungry in 2021' - now - how do we get there?
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TBF you could send Champagne and Caviar to some of these families. The kids would still go hungry due to neglect from parents.
 
OccupiedPalestineBlues said:
I agree entirely James, my beef was with a deluded nobend who was ranting about them (current league leaders) being crap and banging on with some “they can’t possibly win it” nonsense.
Having pointed out the currently best team in the premier league (league position being how it’s measured) can’t be crap, the idiot then started with the abuse. . called me a rag, which is the very worst if abuse on this forum and absolutely unforgivable.

It won’t happen again as I’ve put the turd on ignore.
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Being top of the league after 17 games is not a measurement of who is the best team in the league at all. Southampton were top a few weeks ago, would you seriously suggest that Southampton were the best team in the league. Until all teams have played each other twice, ir one team has mathematically won the league, then the league table does not matter. They have not played Liverpool at all yet and played all the other 'top' teams at home. Donald Trump was winning before at one point, before all the votes were countes. Did not do him much good.
Also, they are not even the form team in the country, we are.
 
Nightmare Walking said:
Being top of the league after 17 games is not a measurement of who is the best team in the league at all. Southampton were top a few weeks ago, would you seriously suggest that Southampton were the best team in the league. Until all teams have played each other twice, ir one team has mathematically won the league, then the league table does not matter. They have not played Liverpool at all yet and played all the other 'top' teams at home. Donald Trump was winning before at one point, before all the votes were countes. Did not do him much good.
Also, they are not even the form team in the country, we are.
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I’ve not mentioned “best team” because that’s incredibly subjective, what I have said is that success in a league system is measured by where the team’s sit.
You might hate them with a vengeance but trying to talk away their league position is nonsense.
They are the most successful team in the English league system after 17 games - dress it up how you like but that’s how it is and I wish that we were sat where they are now.
 
Nightmare Walking said:
Being top of the league after 17 games is not a measurement of who is the best team in the league at all. Southampton were top a few weeks ago, would you seriously suggest that Southampton were the best team in the league. Until all teams have played each other twice, ir one team has mathematically won the league, then the league table does not matter. They have not played Liverpool at all yet and played all the other 'top' teams at home. Donald Trump was winning before at one point, before all the votes were countes. Did not do him much good.
Also, they are not even the form team in the country, we are.
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Actually in the league they are amazingly, won 5 drawn 1, we are 3rd behind Everton who have won 5 lost 1
 
OccupiedPalestineBlues said:
I’ve not mentioned “best team” because that’s incredibly subjective, what I have said is that success in a league system is measured by where the team’s sit.
You might hate them with a vengeance but trying to talk away their league position is nonsense.
They are the most successful team in the English league system after 17 games - dress it up how you like but that’s how it is and I wish that we were sat where they are now.
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What difference does it make United being top and us not? It makes absolutely none. If we win all our games between mow and the end of the season we win the league. We have more favourable fixtures in comparison to them and we are the form team. Then being top after 17 games means absolutely nothing.
 
Airbags Optional said:
Actually in the league they are amazingly, won 5 drawn 1, we are 3rd behind Everton who have won 5 lost 1
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I did not say the league though. Have a look in all competitions. It is definitely not United as they are out of 50% of the tournaments they entered. They have lost more than double the amount of games we have.
 
OccupiedPalestineBlues said:
I’ve not mentioned “best team” because that’s incredibly subjective, what I have said is that success in a league system is measured by where the team’s sit.
You might hate them with a vengeance but trying to talk away their league position is nonsense.
They are the most successful team in the English league system after 17 games - dress it up how you like but that’s how it is and I wish that we were sat where they are now.
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I think you need to have a look at the post of yours that I quoted as you did mention best team. You also said it is measured by being top of the league.
 
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