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urban genie

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Being ourted by some in scottish labour to come intp the leadership race andsort put the party.

Gove has been calling him to ask advice on fighting scottish independence calls.

In today paper has done an interview where he speaks about the 3000000 unemployed being left off offivcila stats.


He seems.very in vogue at the minute and looking back I think he will be regarded as having done a good job both as chancelor, though his free riegn for the banks was too far, and PM (will wait for someome to mention gold) but ultimately was too much of an old real politicion where the 00s onward seemed to crave the camera friendly but ultimately useless new political class.

With this new poll put about scotland I expect we will see more of Gordon used to try and save the Union as he did last time.
 
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He was a decent PM, a great politician too and lost his job because he wasn't a PR man's wet dream.

He should stay out of the Scottish labour internal politics to keep his reputation intact.
 
urban genie said:
Being ourted by some in scottish labour to come intp the leadership race andsort put the party.

Gove has been calling him to ask advice on fighting scottish independence calls.

In today paper has done an interview where he speaks about the 3000000 unemployed being left off offivcila stats.


He seems.very in vogue at the minute and looking back I think he will be regarded as having done a good job both as chancelor, though his free riegn for the banks was too far, and PM (will wait for someome to mention gold) but ultimately was too much of an old real politicion where the 00s onward seemed to crave the camera friendly but ultimately useless new political class.

With this new poll put about scotland I expect we will see more of Gordon used to try and save the Union as he did last time.
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He's a bit marmite, not sure it would be a good thing at his age up against Krankie, bit of a poisoned chalice leading Labour in Scotland.
 
It's on his watch and record that his 10 years as chancellor failed to make us robust enough to deal with the financial crisis a lot better and has led to Tories stripping away what little we had. For a Labour chancellor to have had a decade and us still end up like this is the indictment of him. He spent more time posturing to undermine Blair and get the top job than he did doing his own job properly. Don't like him.
 
Very underrated PM. Unfortunate to cop part of the blame for the global financial crisis. If he had won the 2010 election I believe the country would be in a much better place today.
 
PannickAtTheDisco said:
It's on his watch and record that his 10 years as chancellor failed to make us robust enough to deal with the financial crisis a lot better and has led to Tories stripping away what little we had. For a Labour chancellor to have had a decade and us still end up like this is the indictment of him. He spent more time posturing to undermine Blair and get the top job than he did doing his own job properly. Don't like him.
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Disagree entirely. Ten years of austerity and ending up like this are down to one party only. The Americans were in the same position in 2009 and the subsequent 8 years under Obama bear no comparison to the subsequent 8 years here under Cameron and May.
 
hammocity said:
He's a bit marmite, not sure it would be a good thing at his age up against Krankie, bit of a poisoned chalice leading Labour in Scotland.
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He’s 9 years younger than Biden so age shouldn’t be an issue but I agree it’s a poisoned chalice. It would be quite notable if he were to end up as PM of an independent Scotland. I doubt there’s been another politician who’s led two countries. Doubt independence would happen in a timeframe where that could happen though.
 
We did survive the financial crisis. Hard to blame Brown when the public succumbed to a very 'fatherly' brand of financial moral rhetoric. We chose austerity. We decided not to invest in society. Ten years later everyone's complaining how unhappy they are, and the referendum is turned by people who feel left behind, others whose lives have stood still. Our fault.
 
Did the right thing to bail the banks out.

A very vindictive and petty individual though, who never got over Blair betraying him for Labour leadership and he carried it with him into his Chancellorship.

He often did things to spite Blair and often ignored him, because he hated him, rather than it being the right policy to do at the time.
 
I think the SNP will eat itself in time and the cracks are already starting to show. The Scots have turned their backs on labour because the Westminster party is a mess rather that Scottish labour itself.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
I think the SNP will eat itself in time and the cracks are already starting to show. The Scots have turned their backs on labour because the Westminster party is a mess rather that Scottish labour itself.
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the Scots have turned their backs ion Scottish Labour as well as the Westminster Party. Whilst there have been some very good local mps, their leadership and overall strategy has been pathetic.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
the Scots have turned their backs ion Scottish Labour as well as the Westminster Party. Whilst there have been some very good local mps, their leadership and overall strategy has been pathetic.
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The Scottish voting more for the Tories than Labour is absolutely hilarious stuff, in terms of how bad Labour have been.
 
urban genie said:
Being ourted by some in scottish labour to come intp the leadership race andsort put the party.

Gove has been calling him to ask advice on fighting scottish independence calls.

In today paper has done an interview where he speaks about the 3000000 unemployed being left off offivcila stats.


He seems.very in vogue at the minute and looking back I think he will be regarded as having done a good job both as chancelor, though his free riegn for the banks was too far, and PM (will wait for someome to mention gold) but ultimately was too much of an old real politicion where the 00s onward seemed to crave the camera friendly but ultimately useless new political class.

With this new poll put about scotland I expect we will see more of Gordon used to try and save the Union as he did last time.
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Is he going to pay everyone their £17k back he stole from our pensions?
 
PannickAtTheDisco said:
It's on his watch and record that his 10 years as chancellor failed to make us robust enough to deal with the financial crisis a lot better and has led to Tories stripping away what little we had. For a Labour chancellor to have had a decade and us still end up like this is the indictment of him. He spent more time posturing to undermine Blair and get the top job than he did doing his own job properly. Don't like him.
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He is also credited by other countries that handled the crisis and helped it from being a lot worse.

He wasn't telly friendly enough for here though, which is a shame that our politics has become so shallow.
 
Ban-jani said:
The Scottish voting more for the Tories than Labour is absolutely hilarious stuff, in terms of how bad Labour have been.
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It isn't very suprising, the areas that vote tory always mqinly have amd are pretty wll off.

You have to remember despite the SNP myths it was mainly Scottish lairds and lowlanders that stitched the nation up not just the English.
 
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