Deloitte Football Rich List (merged)

If this MEN article is true then we're likely to overtake the rags and for that matter the rest of Europe

But a man who oversaw Barca’s rise from the world’s 13th richest football club to become European champions and second only to Real Madrid in terms of revenue, has been eyeing a return to football.


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We are still in Europe. The latter stages of any European competition are attractive to fans and TV. Maybe it's well behind the Champions League, but if City go to the Final it would make up for the revenue lost from failing to qualify to the next round of the competition (and it might also help earn more ranking points to earn an easier draw next time around)
 
Nice title by talkSHITE, completely disregarding the effect Etihad + this year's Champions League will have next season.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/top-ten/2012-02-09/why-man-city-are-still-smaller-club-united-liverpool-arsenal-and-chelsea" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/top ... nd-chelsea</a>
 
LoveCity said:
Nice title by talkSHITE, completely disregarding the effect Etihad + this year's Champions League will have next season.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/top-ten/2012-02-09/why-man-city-are-still-smaller-club-united-liverpool-arsenal-and-chelsea" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/top ... nd-chelsea</a>

Absolute bollocks isn't it? Only United are allowed to win things with maybe the odd cup for Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs and Liverpool as these are the "biggest clubs"
We should really fuck off. I feel a bit guilty about being top of the league now.
 
Re: Delloite Financial Figs positive for future

Worst Case Ontario said:
In 10 years or so it seems every Champs League final will be Barca vs Real. Just cant compete with that kind of money. Cause of individual tv rights they are just untouchable. And fact their fanbase increases dramatically by year, cause only 2 teams are good in spain and they practically share all silverware between them, never out of CL cause no competition. If like 10 years ago some other spanish teams could compete with them, its quite clear in 10 years, there is no chance to win league/cup for anyone outside those 2 and FFPR are helping that it stays like that

its self defeating.
Their income will only grow so far, as the domestic competition becomes boring their rights lose value and their income will fall.
The premier league is competitive and so the value of its rights will remain high.

add into the equation the state of the spanish economy and the inevitable reduction in the backhanded state support both receive and the future isnt rosy.
As soon as the they both have a dip in form they will lose revenue, lose competitiveness, there will be no response from the rest of the spanish league as they still wont have money and eventually spanish football looks a lot like ducth football, or if really unlucky like scottish<br /><br />-- Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:46 pm --<br /><br />
johnmc said:
I can see us maybe reacing Arsenal and Chelsea levels in the next 5 years but can't see us going higher than that realistically.

the main limiting factor is the size of our stadium (and thus matchday revenue).
I have just a sneaking suspicion this will be sorted in 5 years
 
its not only a increase in matchday attendences that will increase revenue its that very clever marketing ploy ie gold season tickets
 
And how many corporate boxes we can cram in and sell to rich British and Arab business men after a nice call from His Royal Highness Sheikh Mansour "insisting" they enjoy the entertainment of Manchester City. :P
 
The long term increase in finance will be from the global markets as the RAGS.

today has seen the launch of sky blue membership in the UAE and the signing up of Japanese media partners, Next Summer we are going on tour to China, It is all linked into globalization of the club. It may not be everyones cup of tea but will be necessary to continue comercial growth.

Unlike previous tours I suggest we field a strong team to beat Arsenal in China, then they will follow a winning team getting beat in South Africa doesnt improve the clubs image.
 
Figure in brackets is ECI ranking so you can see which teams are doing better relative to their wealth. Porto are extremely well run as their ECI is No5 and they aren't even in top 15 in terms of turnover. We look very good in this table but only because the spend levels aren't shown! Still the relationship between momey and success is clear. Roma look the big underachievers.


1 (2) Real Madrid 433.0

2 (1) Barcelona 407.0

3 (3) Manchester Utd 331.4

4 (4) Bayern Munich 290.3

5 (10) Arsenal 226.8

6 (7) Chelsea 225.6

7 (13) Milan 212.3

8 (17) Internazionale 190.9

9 (14) Liverpool 183.6

10 (23) Schalke 04 182.8

11 (11) Tottenham H 163.5

12 (6) Manchester City 153.2

13 (24) Juventus 139.0

14 (12) Marseilles 135.8

15 (34) Roma 129.6
 
So the scousers have gone above us!

You look at that top 5 though it should be the top 5 of most indebted clubs!

We are Number one in my book for the best run club in the world!

Also when is our accounts out?
 
'Despite facing bankruptcy'...

Great way to kick off an article. Barcelona really are fucked.

Also, crazy to see Schalke in 16th when they're on the verge of relegation.
 
its good that the corona virus has slashed profits for the top five clubs, their debt will still be the same but they will have less funds to strengthen for a season or two, we could pick up a couple of world beaters at reasonable(for football) prices
 
its good that the corona virus has slashed profits for the top five clubs, their debt will still be the same but they will have less funds to strengthen for a season or two, we could pick up a couple of world beaters at reasonable(for football) prices

They will probably refinance extend the terms on their debt and keep spending. The scousers couldn’t afford to pay their staff but they could splash money on Jota and Tiago? Didn’t United have to take a £100 million pound loan out this summer, no wonder these two want an even bigger say on how things are carved up in English football.
 
What article are we talking about ?


Didn't happen in the end but given the 12 months that we've all endured since this thread was started, no surprise.

We've stayed in 6th and the dippers have gone over us into 5th with the caveat that the accounts of every club are messed up.

But Bridge warned that rankings "may have been different" had the timings of fixtures worked out differently.

Liverpool played both their Champions League last-16 ties in one financial year while Manchester City (due to covid) straddled two financial years.

"But with those placings, take a little bit of care because with the timings of the fixtures they were able to generate more revenue ahead of Manchester City," said Bridge.

"Had timings been a little bit different, those rankings may have been different."

Considering we haven't (publicly) released our books however, how have they come up with the list anyway?
 

Deloitte Football Money League: Liverpool join Man Utd in top five for 2019-20 | Football News | Sky Sports​

8:39, UK, Tuesday 26 January 2021

Barcelona and Real Madrid head the Deloitte Football Money League list for the 2019-20 season; Champions League winners Bayern Munich are third, Manchester United fourth and Liverpool fifth in the list, which charts the financial performance of the highest revenue-generating clubs​


By Michael Hincks
Deloitte Sports Business Group Director Tim Bridge explains why Liverpool are now among the top five clubs of the Deloitte Football Money League


Liverpool have ranked among the top five clubs of the Deloitte Football Money League for the first time in almost 20 years.
The Money League charted the financial performances of the highest revenue-generating clubs during the disrupted 2019-20 season.
Barcelona top the list ahead of La Liga holders Real Madrid and Champions League winners Bayern Munich, with Manchester United in fourth ahead of Premier League champions Liverpool.
Deloitte noted Liverpool's on-pitch success contributed towards lifting them up from seventh in 2018-19, and placing them in the top five for the first time since the 2001-02 season.
Manchester City are sixth in the list, with Premier League clubs Tottenham (ninth), Arsenal (11th) and Everton (17th) also in the top 20.
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Overall, the top 20 clubs saw a revenue decline of 12 per cent compared to 2018-19 due to a drop in broadcast revenue and fall in matchday revenue.
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Deloitte Football Money League: Liverpool join Man Utd in top five for 2019-20​

Barcelona and Real Madrid head the Deloitte Football Money League list for the 2019-20 season; Champions League winners Bayern Munich are third, Manchester United fourth and Liverpool fifth in the list, which charts the financial performance of the highest revenue-generating clubs​

Liverpool have ranked among the top five clubs of the Deloitte Football Money League for the first time in almost 20 years.

The Money League charted the financial performances of the highest revenue-generating clubs during the disrupted 2019-20 season.

Barcelona top the list ahead of La Liga holders Real Madrid and Champions League winners Bayern Munich, with Manchester United in fourth ahead of Premier League champions Liverpool.

Deloitte noted Liverpool's on-pitch success contributed towards lifting them up from seventh in 2018-19, and placing them in the top five for the first time since the 2001-02 season.

Manchester City are sixth in the list, with Premier League clubs Tottenham (ninth), Arsenal (11th) and Everton (17th) also in the top 20.

Overall, the top 20 clubs saw a revenue decline of 12 per cent compared to 2018-19 due to a drop in broadcast revenue and fall in matchday revenue.

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Liverpool's return to top five explained​

Speaking to Sky Sports News, Tim Bridge, director of Deloitte Sports Business Group, said moving towards a "digital model" had helped Liverpool place fifth - on top of their Premier League success.

"The on-pitch success is a massive factor," Bridge said. "Building on winning the Champions League and then taking the Premier League crown for the first time has had a significant impact. They have moved significantly towards a more digital model, and have been doing for a number of years.

"That has benefitted them in comparison to others during the pandemic, because they are able to engage with their fans in a way others probably had to pay catch-up."

But Bridge warned that rankings "may have been different" had the timings of fixtures worked out differently.

Liverpool played both their Champions League last-16 ties in one financial year while Manchester City (due to covid) straddled two financial years.

"But with those placings, take a little bit of care because with the timings of the fixtures they were able to generate more revenue ahead of Manchester City," said Bridge.

"Had timings been a little bit different, those rankings may have been different."

Man Utd's largest revenue decrease​

United saw the largest year-on-year decline among the top 20 clubs in the Money League, with Bridge highlighting their lack of Champions League football as a contributing factor.

Bridge said: "The reason for the decrease is predominantly driven by the pandemic, as you can imagine Manchester United with a huge fanbase generate significant amounts of revenue every time they play at Old Trafford.

"They are going to be impacted in a more significant way than many other clubs. Of course, last year they didn't have Champions League football either, so the revenue differential from competing in the Europa League compared to the Champions League had a significant impact on the numbers.

"But caution is needed. With Bayern Munich moving ahead of them, they were able to complete their domestic season in the timeframe, so the numbers for Bayern represent a full year of domestic football, whereas for United they are curtailed."

Why Everton saw a revenue increase​

Everton, along with Russian club Zenit, were the only two clubs in the top 20 to see an increase in revenue compared to 2018-19.

"For anybody who has seen Everton's plans around the new stadium, and the investment into the playing squad, they've got an ambitious owner who's looking to take strides forward," Bridge said.

"When a new owner comes in we talk about an investment cycle, and often it requires significant investment on the pitch in order to then drive future commercial revenues, and what Everton have been able to do is secure some long-term partnerships.

"A new shirt sponsorship with Cazoo and the deal with Hummel, but there is a significant deal within their commercial portfolio in respect of the future naming rights of their stadium with USM. That is the driving factor behind the commercial increase."

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