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Re: Deloitte Football Money League - City in 12th place

Considoring how Spurs fans feel they are a much bigger club than us, the fact that we are right up their arse the year they have CL income and we dont, also not including the campus sponsorship and the fact our seasons ticket prices generate a much lower matchday revenue we aren't doing a bad job in 12th their. The report expects us to break into the top10 in next years results.
 
Re: Deloitte Football Money League - City in 12th place

Based on that trend, and the calculation on Champions League partcipation for Spurs/higher ticket prices...

They were just £10m above us.

That's despite a £100m spend by us on players, no Champions League football to speak of and a £35m a year Etihad deal coming on line for the next accounts.

£30m for Champions League/Etihad.

We will ovetake Liverpool and be in top 8 next year.
 
Re: Deloitte Football Money League - City in 12th place

Last years numbers..This year will look much better
 
Re: Delloite Financial Figs positive for future

Well, we should be getting a minimum of £65m from the CL and the new Etihad/Campus sponsorship so that will take us to approx £220m. We could even end up in 5th place depending on how Arsenal do in the CL as a lot of those above us a) aren't going to significantly increase revenue and b) are already in the CL every year.

Now we just need to get costs down (sell players not in squad) and work on our revenue even more............
 
When do the new figures come out?

People also need to take into account we have no FA Cup run this year, so finances will be down on that side of things, but we also have to take into account the semi final with Liverpool.

Also, can anyone tell me have we been on TV more this season than last and if so does this mean we get more money, or do we just recieve one lump sum no matter how many times we appear?
 
Match Day Revenue per game will be higher this season as every home League game has sold out and League prices are expensive. We are averaging 47,042 at the moment. Last season it was 45,880. But we've reached the limit in terms of League games. Champions League match-day revenue can improve if we can get out of our Group next season (assuming we qualify!).

Comments have been made about Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs lacking the stadium to compete with Arsenal, Utd etc's crowds, but what about us? We are paying a lease payment to MCC & we do not have any published plans to rebuild and extend the stadium unlike Spurs, Chelsea and Liverpool who have all been talking about stadium redevelopment.

It looks like we will finish in the top 3 again this season, and we should be careful not to miss out on what could be a once in a lifetime opportunity to establish City as one of the top 5 clubs in Europe. To do that you need a top 5 stadium to provide the stage and the finance for the world's best players. The best players have come, but only because we have been able to dangle big cheques and the opportunity to go down in history as players who won the title for MCFC and established a new force in world football. Winning the title will be the biggest factor, but we should also do everything possible off the pitch.
 
Re: Delloite Financial Figs positive for future

oakiecokie said:
Tottenham's first season in the Champions League drove a dramatic increase in revenue that lifted them above Manchester City – the club they edged out of fourth spot in the Premier League two years ago – in the latest Deloitte European Football Money League. But the report also highlights the need for Spurs, Liverpool and Chelsea to resolve their stadium issues if they are to keep pace financially with the Manchester clubs and Arsenal.

Tottenham's run last year to the last eight of the Champions League helped boost their revenue by 36 per cent to a record £163.5m and their matchday revenue by 18 per cent. But at £47.9m it remains around half of the totals raised by Arsenal and Manchester United. Chelsea took £67.5m on matchdays and Liverpool £40.9m. Manchester City's was only £26.6m for the 2010-11 season but that will grow rapidly with Champions League football this season.

Like United and Arsenal, City have the security (aside from the small matter of a Qatari fortune) of having a ground ready for the future, unlike Tottenham, Liverpool and Chelsea. "[Resolving their ground issues] is hugely important," said Dan Jones, the editor of the report. "If you look at the relativities of different clubs, you can clearly see the advantage Manchester United and Arsenal are reaping from the investment they have made in their stadia, versus Chelsea, Liverpool and Tottenham, who are all capacity-restrained by where they are. It's no surprise they are looking carefully at their stadium options."

The table also underlines the importance of reaching the Champions League for those trying to close the gap on the top six in Europe, which remained the same for the fourth year in succession with Real Madrid and Barcelona leading Manchester United.

"Champions League qualification is the great differentiator," said Jones. "The benefits are pretty clear. Despite the growth of Manchester City, Tottenham managing to leapfrog them will probably surprise people. It is not the whole cake but it is a very, very significant icing on the top. Next season expect to see City in the top 10 and that will be in large part due to Champions League qualification."

Money league table

Rank/Club/Revenue (£m)

1 (1) Real Madrid 433.0

2 (2) Barcelona 407.0

3 (3) Manchester Utd 331.4

4 (4) Bayern Munich 290.3

5 (5) Arsenal 226.8

6 (6) Chelsea 225.6

7 (7) Milan 212.3

8 (9) Internazionale 190.9

9 (8) Liverpool 183.6

10 (16) Schalke 04 182.8

11 (12) Tottenham H 163.5

12 (11) Manchester City 153.2

13 (10) Juventus 139.0

14 (15) Marseilles 135.8

15 (18) Roma 129.6

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I would have thought that Spurs would be in the Top 10 by now.
 
Re: Delloite Financial Figs positive for future

THFC6061 said:
oakiecokie said:
Tottenham's first season in the Champions League drove a dramatic increase in revenue that lifted them above Manchester City – the club they edged out of fourth spot in the Premier League two years ago – in the latest Deloitte European Football Money League. But the report also highlights the need for Spurs, Liverpool and Chelsea to resolve their stadium issues if they are to keep pace financially with the Manchester clubs and Arsenal.

Tottenham's run last year to the last eight of the Champions League helped boost their revenue by 36 per cent to a record £163.5m and their matchday revenue by 18 per cent. But at £47.9m it remains around half of the totals raised by Arsenal and Manchester United. Chelsea took £67.5m on matchdays and Liverpool £40.9m. Manchester City's was only £26.6m for the 2010-11 season but that will grow rapidly with Champions League football this season.

Like United and Arsenal, City have the security (aside from the small matter of a Qatari fortune) of having a ground ready for the future, unlike Tottenham, Liverpool and Chelsea. "[Resolving their ground issues] is hugely important," said Dan Jones, the editor of the report. "If you look at the relativities of different clubs, you can clearly see the advantage Manchester United and Arsenal are reaping from the investment they have made in their stadia, versus Chelsea, Liverpool and Tottenham, who are all capacity-restrained by where they are. It's no surprise they are looking carefully at their stadium options."

The table also underlines the importance of reaching the Champions League for those trying to close the gap on the top six in Europe, which remained the same for the fourth year in succession with Real Madrid and Barcelona leading Manchester United.

"Champions League qualification is the great differentiator," said Jones. "The benefits are pretty clear. Despite the growth of Manchester City, Tottenham managing to leapfrog them will probably surprise people. It is not the whole cake but it is a very, very significant icing on the top. Next season expect to see City in the top 10 and that will be in large part due to Champions League qualification."

Money league table

Rank/Club/Revenue (£m)

1 (1) Real Madrid 433.0

2 (2) Barcelona 407.0

3 (3) Manchester Utd 331.4

4 (4) Bayern Munich 290.3

5 (5) Arsenal 226.8

6 (6) Chelsea 225.6

7 (7) Milan 212.3

8 (9) Internazionale 190.9

9 (8) Liverpool 183.6

10 (16) Schalke 04 182.8

11 (12) Tottenham H 163.5

12 (11) Manchester City 153.2

13 (10) Juventus 139.0

14 (15) Marseilles 135.8

15 (18) Roma 129.6

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I would have thought that Spurs would be in the Top 10 by now.
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Only a matter of time. Spurs will either move ground, or extend WHL to a capacity to rival Arsenal, and that will give you the platform to compete with anybody

MUFC will always be in the English top 4, but I think City and Spurs will join them as permanent fixtures because of the financial resources available to them. FFPR stop rich owners buying the best players, but it doesn't stop them financing big grounds which then create revenue streams to buy the best players.
 
Re: Delloite Financial Figs positive for future

THFC6061 said:
oakiecokie said:
Tottenham's first season in the Champions League drove a dramatic increase in revenue that lifted them above Manchester City – the club they edged out of fourth spot in the Premier League two years ago – in the latest Deloitte European Football Money League. But the report also highlights the need for Spurs, Liverpool and Chelsea to resolve their stadium issues if they are to keep pace financially with the Manchester clubs and Arsenal.

Tottenham's run last year to the last eight of the Champions League helped boost their revenue by 36 per cent to a record £163.5m and their matchday revenue by 18 per cent. But at £47.9m it remains around half of the totals raised by Arsenal and Manchester United. Chelsea took £67.5m on matchdays and Liverpool £40.9m. Manchester City's was only £26.6m for the 2010-11 season but that will grow rapidly with Champions League football this season.

Like United and Arsenal, City have the security (aside from the small matter of a Qatari fortune) of having a ground ready for the future, unlike Tottenham, Liverpool and Chelsea. "[Resolving their ground issues] is hugely important," said Dan Jones, the editor of the report. "If you look at the relativities of different clubs, you can clearly see the advantage Manchester United and Arsenal are reaping from the investment they have made in their stadia, versus Chelsea, Liverpool and Tottenham, who are all capacity-restrained by where they are. It's no surprise they are looking carefully at their stadium options."

The table also underlines the importance of reaching the Champions League for those trying to close the gap on the top six in Europe, which remained the same for the fourth year in succession with Real Madrid and Barcelona leading Manchester United.

"Champions League qualification is the great differentiator," said Jones. "The benefits are pretty clear. Despite the growth of Manchester City, Tottenham managing to leapfrog them will probably surprise people. It is not the whole cake but it is a very, very significant icing on the top. Next season expect to see City in the top 10 and that will be in large part due to Champions League qualification."

Money league table

Rank/Club/Revenue (£m)

1 (1) Real Madrid 433.0

2 (2) Barcelona 407.0

3 (3) Manchester Utd 331.4

4 (4) Bayern Munich 290.3

5 (5) Arsenal 226.8

6 (6) Chelsea 225.6

7 (7) Milan 212.3

8 (9) Internazionale 190.9

9 (8) Liverpool 183.6

10 (16) Schalke 04 182.8

11 (12) Tottenham H 163.5

12 (11) Manchester City 153.2

13 (10) Juventus 139.0

14 (15) Marseilles 135.8

15 (18) Roma 129.6

Well at least we knew in advance that this would happen.
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I would have thought that Spurs would be in the Top 10 by now.
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Take out Champions League football and how far you progressed last season (supposedly worth around £35m in total) you should be concerned.

On that premise, without it, you are closer to 15th than being inside the top ten.

There is no wiggle room for growth outside of Champions League qualification year on year - until you move stadium.

On a side note, I don't expect our Champions League revenue to be as high as Spurs'

Less wins in the group stage, failure to qualify and achieve bonus, think we only made ITV once!

Be closer to £20m than £30m IMO.

Still, we win the Premier League this year and our prize money is £55m - an increase of £15m on last season.
 
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