Media Thread 2020/21

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Prestwich_Blue said:
I'll take that a little further. A City employee told me about the time, post a managerial press conference (might have been Mancini but it doesn't really matter) when they came across 4 journalists from the so-called 'red top' papers, all from different titles, discussing the line they were going to take in spinning something the manager had said.

And a senior club employee told me directly not that long ago that they know there is an organised agenda against us in the media and who's behind it.
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This is where we need to be ruthless – and after the UEFA ban and subsequent shite that came with it, I would like to think the powers-that-be at City now know this... as such, if this is true and we know who is behind it, I would like to think we would be working behind the scenes to absolutely destroy them... digging up every bit of dirt to discredit them... which in turn would then act as a warning to others
 
Shirley said:
Man City: Diego Costa would win title for Pep Guardiola's side - Micah Richards analysis

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Man City: Diego Costa would win title for Pep Guardiola's side - Micah Richards analysis

BBC pundit Micah Richards explains why former Chelsea striker Diego Costa would make the difference for Manchester City in the race to win the Premier League.
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Micah, whatever it is stop smoking it!
Costa would be an unmitigated catastrophe in the dressing room which is where he would spend 90% of the time thanks to a stream of red cards.
He’s the stuff of dreams for referees.
Don’t want him anywhere near us thanks.
 
Burtonblue said:
Micah, whatever it is stop smoking it!
Costa would be an unmitigated catastrophe in the dressing room which is where he would spend 90% of the time thanks to a stream of red cards.
He’s the stuff of dreams for referees.
Don’t want him anywhere near us thanks.
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I think the rag editors had fun with that. It was originally a trolling article where Micah was saying he'd be a great signing for the rags.

:)
 
madloaf said:
BBC half season report card is in.

Wanna guess if Liverpool's injuries get mentioned but Citys don't?

We'll hopefully go top tonight nd have lost 2 games in the first half of the season but of course "Might have done even better in the first half of the season"
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Yes the usual Liverpool excuse of injuries are mentioned but they are also described as "strangely flat" and "the spark has been missing too often in the last few weeks".

To be fair, in City's report card it also says "looking very ominous as they lie in second place" and "a squad and team that has that title look". Even the form of the "wonderfully rejuvenated John Stones" is acknowledged.

"Might have done better in the first half of the season" is probably true, I wish we had done better.....but you omitted the last part of the sentence which says "but now look the team to beat in the title race".

I hate the BBC output as much as anyone but for once I thought the summary of us was OK. Some of the stuff written about the other teams was complete bollocks....but then I don't support those other teams, so I don't really care.
 
Gingers Dad said:
No not really. But when we have more pundits in the media the narrative will start to change. I think the difference Micah has made to the way they talk about City matches, when he's on the panel is amazing.
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Yes but that job is quite a cushy one and they tend to hang about for years and so we get the old faces (or faeces) all the time and it might take some time to filter through. At times Micah gets too giggly and can be put into a box as the resident City panto villain and being more serious might give him more gravitas and a 'serious' glare at some of the clowns on with him might put them off with their nonsensical column.
Personally I would like to see our Ned more, he is intelligent, authorities and well informed. I wouldn't like a serious glare off him either;)
 
Mike Cledford said:
Which comes first, the chicken or the egg? Doing nothing seems to suit our PR people who like doing nowt. Along with the ticket office it has been a weak link for years.
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The owner of our wonderful club has clearly decided the media/PR policy. If he thought they were doing a shit job they would be out. He wants a softly softly approach and they deliver. I can only assume he wants it done that way because he knows he won't win a fight with them (in the short term at least)
 
Blue Mist said:
The owner of our wonderful club has clearly decided the media/PR policy. If he thought they were doing a shit job they would be out. He wants a softly softly approach and they deliver. I can only assume he wants it done that way because he knows he won't win a fight with them (in the short term at least)
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He is a very good business man too and it seems that his/our brand is being adversely affected by the activities of rivals and their media friends.
His club his ball so he can do what he likes and l like pointing out the errors and omissions because it makes me feel better.
Ffs my spell check made that read 'makes me feel bitter':)
 
Blue Mist said:
Posters on here always complain about our PR dept and how they should fight back. Who exactly is going to publish, on line, in print or on TV anything the PR dept say? Positive articles on us do not generate clicks so no one will full stop.
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It is about reputation management, which does not necessarily involve writing articles for publication and certainly does not include suing the perpetrators of falsehoods.
It involves responding directly, not publicly, to those perpetrators and gently but persistently reminding them of the true position. So, when the Guardian allows someone to post BTL that state owners of clubs like City should be banned, PR should remind the editor of BTL that City is not state owned.
Monitoring the press and online material takes time and effort, but when a 'clear and organised' attempt has been made to sully your rep, you should respond.
There are other techniques that I wont bore you with, but as an example, a profile of Khaldoon sent to those sports editors who think our owners are some dodgy Gulf traders would pay dividends.
Google 'reputation management' for a brief look. I practised rep and issues management for a large company. It works.
Reputation management is standard practice for many PR depts, but we do none of it.
 
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Simple Simon’s “West ham winning race for Lingard loan” is a lovely piece of free advertising for the rags this morning, to try to offer out one of their deadweights.

Firstly no one is racing for a player who hasnt played all season.
He then also says West Ham can’t sign him on loan anyway because they have the max number of domestic loans.

Yet apparently it is worthy of actually publishing it as an article.
 
Mike Cledford said:
Which comes first, the chicken or the egg? Doing nothing seems to suit our PR people who like doing nowt. Along with the ticket office it has been a weak link for years.
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Problem is if PR department keep crying about the negativity, it will just be spun as mardarse city.....
Only way to beat the fuckers is with patience and success on the pitch. However we’ll then be a plastic club.
Personally avoid media like the plaque and get most of info off here, I am pretty selective thankfully
 
Blue Mist said:
The owner of our wonderful club has clearly decided the media/PR policy. If he thought they were doing a shit job they would be out. He wants a softly softly approach and they deliver. I can only assume he wants it done that way because he knows he won't win a fight with them (in the short term at least)
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The club wants to grow and generate new fans worldwide – the negative press we get massively affects that.
Think of it like a review... if you read that a movie is rubbish, a lot of people will decide not to see that movie - or if they do, have already had an opinion formed of the movie, so subconsciously will already dislike it.
Similarly, when buying online, or booking a holiday - we read reviews and can base our purchase on these review.
The problem is, in most cases we have no idea how genuine these reviews are... years ago Samsung were fined for being found to have paid for negative reviews of a rivals product... movie review sites have been found to have affiliations to certain studios and as such are very favourable to that studios movies... similarly, companies employ influencers on social media to push their product/service etc.

Football is no different – we constantly receive the equivalent of negative reviews, so the consumer - or prospective fan - will be put off following us, especially when they're being told how fantastic United or Liverpool are. If the club truly wants to expand to match their ambitions, they have too win this war... as daft as it sounds, it can be just as important as what goes on on the pitch these days... United and Liverpool have been generating massive revenues over the years despite lack of success.
 
KS55 said:
It is about reputation management, which does not necessarily involve writing articles for publication and certainly does not include suing the perpetrators of falsehoods.
It involves responding directly, not publicly, to those perpetrators and gently but persistently reminding them of the true position. So, when the Guardian allows someone to post BTL that state owners of clubs like City should be banned, PR should remind the editor of BTL that City is not state owned.
Monitoring the press and online material takes time and effort, but when a 'clear and organised' attempt has been made to sully your rep, you should respond.
There are other techniques that I wont bore you with, but as an example, a profile of Khaldoon sent to those sports editors who think our owners are some dodgy Gulf traders would pay dividends.
Google 'reputation management' for a brief look. I practised rep and issues management for a large company. It works.
Reputation management is standard practice for many PR depts, but we do none of it.
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I bow to your greater knowledge of how it can/should be managed but you have to accept that it is not the PR/Media Dept at City that are useless, they are only doing as instructed by 'them above'. Khldoon and the others dictate how the club react to lies/negative press.
 
Blue Mist said:
I bow to your greater knowledge of how it can/should be managed but you have to accept that it is not the PR/Media Dept at City that are useless, they are only doing as instructed by 'them above'. Khldoon and the others dictate how the club react to lies/negative press.
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Yes. It is the club that falls short and that is down to senior management. Nevertheless, PR can be active in trying to change the management's stance, if they have a mind to.
 
DorisBlue said:
Simple Simon’s “West ham winning race for Lingard loan” is a lovely piece of free advertising for the rags this morning, to try to offer out one of their deadweights.

Firstly no one is racing for a player who hasnt played all season.
He then also says West Ham can’t sign him on loan anyway because they have the max number of domestic loans.

Yet apparently it is worthy of actually publishing it as an article.
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Where ever he goes he’ll flop as he won’t have had a preseason with his new teammates to master .......... The goal celebration
 
M12Blue said:
Problem is if PR department keep crying about the negativity, it will just be spun as mardarse city.....
Only way to beat the fuckers is with patience and success on the pitch. However we’ll then be a plastic club.
Personally avoid media like the plaque and get most of info off here, I am pretty selective thankfully
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Vicky Kloss with a Cambridge degree and 20 years in the job should have the intelligence and know how to deal with the media. As a director she will be taking a few bob home each month. Mancini had a go at the way she not only failed to suppress the stories just before a cup final about him getting the push but also at the poor image we were getting generally and as reigning champions during the whole season that was just finishing.
Press briefings are farcical. I cannot imagine any other clubs allowing reporter to make an allegation about a manager taking a bung and get away with it - in the eyes of the world. Another made an awful remark about Silva's son - they all chance these remarks because they get away with it.
We should be more proactive and positive - we always seem like a boxer on the back foot with hands dropped and getting a walloping.
I too avoid the media to and get a digest of what's happening on here and am thankfully selective too. I would never dream of criticising City fans for showing their support or supporting those who call blues defending the club 'fanny wipes'.
 
dario2739 said:
The club wants to grow and generate new fans worldwide – the negative press we get massively affects that.
Think of it like a review... if you read that a movie is rubbish, a lot of people will decide not to see that movie - or if they do, have already had an opinion formed of the movie, so subconsciously will already dislike it.
Similarly, when buying online, or booking a holiday - we read reviews and can base our purchase on these review.
The problem is, in most cases we have no idea how genuine these reviews are... years ago Samsung were fined for being found to have paid for negative reviews of a rivals product... movie review sites have been found to have affiliations to certain studios and as such are very favourable to that studios movies... similarly, companies employ influencers on social media to push their product/service etc.

Football is no different – we constantly receive the equivalent of negative reviews, so the consumer - or prospective fan - will be put off following us, especially when they're being told how fantastic United or Liverpool are. If the club truly wants to expand to match their ambitions, they have too win this war... as daft as it sounds, it can be just as important as what goes on on the pitch these days... United and Liverpool have been generating massive revenues over the years despite lack of success.
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Great post although I would also add that imho a proportion of young kids all over the world use the barometer of success as opposed to negative articles.
Continued success in the coming years will lead to a tipping point and a place for us where the rags/dippers enjoy due to their success in the 70s and eighties.
 
Mike Cledford said:
Vicky Kloss with a Cambridge degree and 20 years in the job should have the intelligence and know how to deal with the media. As a director she will be taking a few bob home each month. Mancini had a go at the way she not only failed to suppress the stories just before a cup final about him getting the push but also at the poor image we were getting generally and as reigning champions during the whole season that was just finishing.
Press briefings are farcical. I cannot imagine any other clubs allowing reporter to make an allegation about a manager taking a bung and get away with it - in the eyes of the world. Another made an awful remark about Silva's son - they all chance these remarks because they get away with it.
We should be more proactive and positive - we always seem like a boxer on the back foot with hands dropped and getting a walloping.
I too avoid the media to and get a digest of what's happening on here and am thankfully selective too. I would never dream of criticising City fans for showing their support or supporting those who call blues defending the club 'fanny wipes'.
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Good analogy. We’re rope-a-doping them, hoping they’ll tire of printing their nonsensical articles about us.

Long term, this might just work ;)
 
Protein Junkie said:
Spurs overcame a scare but we were within minutes of one of the biggest shocks in recent FA Cup History.(BBC)
I can only assume that when goals are scored fits the narrative not the final result.
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TBF - a Championship club knocking out a PL club would not be the biggest upset in FA Cup history. It's happened quite a few times.
 
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