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Man City: Diego Costa would win title for Pep Guardiola's side - Micah Richards analysis

Costa disrespected City a couple of years ago, so for me he can go and fuck his mum’s ****.

The silly so and so.
 
Posters on here always complain about our PR dept and how they should fight back. Who exactly is going to publish, on line, in print or on TV anything the PR dept say? Positive articles on us do not generate clicks so no one will full stop.
They will if we make them as sensationalist as f*ck. With the grain of long term truth at their base that we can point back to in the future with a follow up 'we told you so'. And so the credence of our big picture prescience becomes complete.
 
Yes but that job is quite a cushy one and they tend to hang about for years and so we get the old faces (or faeces) all the time and it might take some time to filter through. At times Micah gets too giggly and can be put into a box as the resident City panto villain and being more serious might give him more gravitas and a 'serious' glare at some of the clowns on with him might put them off with their nonsensical column.
Personally I would like to see our Ned more, he is intelligent, authorities and well informed. I wouldn't like a serious glare off him either;)
I'm more using Micah as an example of how the narrative changes when there's someone ex-City in the room. It will take time but it will happen if we carry on doing what were doing. Thought Kompany was going to move onto the comfy cushions but he decided to earn his living from football instead. The BBC loved him and again they totally changed when he was around.
 
I think the specific examples you quote are indeed actionable, I have no idea how far after the event the club took them. I do wish Pep had stood up and tested the bastard, or at least said get the fuck out and don’t cone back.

My comment was more to do with the daily press and the click bait drive. We need to be realistic, that only changes in terms of good press when we generate adequate click bait.
It’s understandable even if ‘unpalatable’.

Whilst the club continue to move forward the media bile makes no difference to me. As I said, just ignore it, too old to raise my blood pressure over it .

I would add, I used to enjoy reading about any football pre-takeover
Whereas l get what you are saying about click bait l dont worry too much about the daily press.
If someone says that the rags have 30 stories l won't look and in fact rarely look at any City stories because of the cookies. It is the unfairness about our fantastic achievements that gets me and the dishonesty that surrounds it.
I like being a grumpy old man and l like the thought of my blood pressure increasing.
As a kid we used to have so much to read about football generally even stuff like Charlie Buchan's Football Album from years before obtained from a jumble sale. These were kept immaculately neat in my drawer downstairs along with programmes, rosettes, hand knitted scarf, cricket bat etc. I had several newspapers following the 55 and 56 Cup finals but there was no bias or favouritism as far as l can remember. We used to traipse down to Crokey Park to play football and it was always City v United with roughly equal numbers, coming back we would be invited into the Bethshan Tabernacle for a cup of tea and a bikky which we happily took in whilst avoiding the religious bit.
Not much to do with the media but l liked recalling Memory Lane in Upper Longsight;)
 
Man City: Diego Costa would win title for Pep Guardiola's side - Micah Richards analysis

That's why Micah would never make a manager. Costa is over the hill and would destroy our dressing room in my view. I don't think he can be compared to Cavani who used to be a world-class player and is still a very good one and crucially still very fit (unlike Costa).
 
It will only change when fan bases change. I’d hazard a guess there are a shed load of young city fans out there and when they become adults, get jobs, and so are valuable consumers the media will need to adjust.

or, maybe not. Kids consume their news and TV differently these days. Hence why the print media is dying
Yes but having a more aggressive PR is needed to push out our name is important too. A large number of fans are growing up fed by lies.
 
Think both of them were really good mates too before & after if I remember correctly.

Yes, this is right. The guy was called George Potter. They'd known each other in the north east and, as you say, were quite good mates. There's an extract from Tueart's autobiography here that discusses it (he gets the score wrong - it was 6-0, not 6-1): Manchester City v Hartlepool 1975/76 FA Cup 3rd Round – City Til I Die

It also shows a photo of Tueart and Tony Book visiting the guy in hospital, and a copy of the letter Tueart, as President, sent to the Junior Blues expressing his regret after the incident.
 
Blimey that takes me back....I was in the Kippax that day...was it a cup game? Think his name was Potter...went down quicker than Salah! Seem to remember we scored 6!
And that was a proper headbutt not like the Trevor Francis head flick! I think the Tueart one was strangely during a 6-0 FA Cup win against Hartlepool. I was in the ground and it seemed to come out of the blue. There were suggestions afterwards there was some sort of personal grudge going back to Tueart's days in the North East. Didn't the victim get quite badly injured?
 
Regarding taking on the snakes is it possible that legal proceedings have been avoided by the club due to concerns over being forced to disclose background and provide counter evidence. all this would do is provide more ammunition to the detractors.
I could be wrong but I don't think that's how slander and libel work, it's on the accuser mouthing off publicly to prove what they are saying is correct because they are the ones who said it and they cannot for 99% of it. Otherwise it really would be "guilty until proven innocent". It's why CAS basically told UEFA: "You've got absolutely no evidence for any of your claims, other than failure to co-operate after your organisation starting leaking to the press."

For example, the ownership which our press are always blatantly being disingenuous about. City are not state owned, they are owned by ADUG who are privately owned by Sheikh Mansour. Not to mention shareholders in China and the USA now. That's a legal fact and City wouldn't have to disclose much to prove that from their side of it.

The ownership of City isn't in doubt, for the rest of their claims past and present: As if any of our agenda peddling media would be sitting on any proof and being coy about it. No, what they are doing is quite the opposite, they are letting on they have more than they really do to support what they are saying.

Who ever came up with "The empty can rattles the most" was really onto something. It crops up in many places, football politics being one of them. That's Rob Harris all over, he loves the attention. If anyone is in doubt, go watch his appearance on the 90min youtube channel just after the Der Spiegel propaganda dropped. They all brown nosed him, as if he was some kind of authority on the subject and he couldn't stop smiling, he was loving it.
 
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It will only change when fan bases change. I’d hazard a guess there are a shed load of young city fans out there and when they become adults, get jobs, and so are valuable consumers the media will need to adjust.

or, maybe not. Kids consume their news and TV differently these days. Hence why the print media is dying
Better worded than mine but I essentially said the same.
 
I don't think that's how slander and libel works, it's on the accuser mouthing off publicly to prove they have any evidence of wrong doing. Otherwise it really would be "guilty until proven innocent".
Correct. So Rob Harris of AP, who asked Pep after the Cup Final if he was paid "off books" (like Mancini had allegedly done to evade tax or circumvent FFP), would have to prove this allegation was true. In civil cases the burden of proof lies with the accuser.The irony of course is that even if Mancini had been paid "consultancy fees" to boost his income it was in a period which pre-dated FFP rules!
That allegation was broadcast publically in a televised press conference and repeated online. AP is one of the world's biggest news agencies which supplies content for thousands of outlets and millions of people globally. Reputationally it is as bad as it gets. For example if Harris had said it to the boss of say the Disney Corporation his career would be over (unless he could prove it was true)
 
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Correct. So Rob Harris of AP, who asked Pep after the Cup Final if he was paid "off books" (like Mancini had allegedly been done to evade tax or circumvent FFP), would have to prove this allegation was true. In civil cases the burden of proof lies with the accuser.The irony of course is that even if Mancini had been paid "consultancy fees" to boost his income it was in a period which pre-dated FFP rules!
That allegation was broadcast publically in a televised press conference and repeated online. AP is one of the world's biggest news agencies which supplies content for thousands of outlets and millions of people globally. Reputationally it is as bad as it gets. For example if Harris had said it to the boss of say the Disney Corporation his career would be over (unless he could prove it was true)
I was amazed we took no action on this.
It was like asking David Attenborough in a public interview if it was true he was a paedophile because the BBC had covered up Jimmy Savile’s activities in the 70s and 80s
 
Well well well....Bernies goal against Villa is now considered to be offside under a new “interpretation” no changing of the law just more scope for the Prem/pigmol to interpret (nudge nudge) the game as they see fit, this would never of happened had the rags or dippers had the ingenuity to score that goal, City ruining football again
 
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