Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Healdplace]

The last thing we need are vaccine wars. Biden should call an international conference to bring the world together.

Protecting the planet not just ourselves needs to be understood as the pandemic will only result in normality if we damp it down everywhere. Or eradicate it and then seal ourselves off from the world, Which nobody will do.

 

[Healdplace]

Cases up to 28, 680

750, 048 pillar 1 & 2 tests though. Wow!

That is surely a daily record (over 800K were done in total of you add in things like antibody testing)

That is 3.8% positivity.

Lowest in a very long time.

Again will the media even notice?

Nobody did yesterday and this is well below the 5% that WHO require.

All they will see is cases up again. But THAT is not the story of the last 48 hours by a mile.

 

[Healdplace]

Deaths 1239. Not too many out of hospital add ones today. And happily a lot down on yesterday.

Still many more of these tragic days to come though.

 

[unicorn]

Ive just had the Oxford vaccine and my other half got the fizer, it was at the Rugby ground with hundreds of other people, lots of nurses doing the injections which don’t hurt.

The queue was huge right round the ground, but it’s moving real quick. It didn’t take long and last of all the doctor was on hand just in case. Fantastic

It's good to get such positive news about how well we're doing these vaccinations. I know that some parts of the country got theirs slightly faster than others but I've heard nothing but praise from the staff and volunteers.

 

[Healdplace]

Pity no press conference today the governmemt could set the media right and stop them posting today as another disaster.

Why on earth do they never promote the positivity numbers? I just don't get it.

People see cases up by a few thousand and think that is a worrying day.

They are not going to know why it matters that they are from three quarters of a million tests.

That stunning positivity number tells you this instantly.

As does its track over the last week or two. Down Down Down.

How can Boris and co not see this?

 

[unicorn]

More people obviously but as a percentage a lot less (under 70% last I heard).

Though GM has done them all according to Andy Burnham and as a reward had one third of the vaccine supply taken away from the region as a reward for being ahead of other regions.

It's not a race between regions, though, it's a race against the virus and for equity we need to get the at-risk groups vaccinated at roughly the same pace.

That said, well done Manchester.

 

[Saddleworth2]

Pity no press conference today the governmemt could set the media right and stop them posting today as another disaster.

Why on earth do they never promote the positivity numbers? I just don't get it.

People see cases up by a few thousand and think that is a worrying day.

They are not going to know why it matters that they are from three quarters of a million tests.

That stunning positivity number tells you this instantly.

As does its track over the last week or two. Down Down Down.

How can Boris and co not see this?

You have to ask that?

 

[kaz7]

The UK has reported another 1,239 COVID-related deaths and 28,680 new cases of the virus.

The latest government figures also reveal that 7.45 million people have now had their first dose of a coronavirus vaccine.

 

[cptaidan88]

Pity no press conference today the governmemt could set the media right and stop them posting today as another disaster.

Why on earth do they never promote the positivity numbers? I just don't get it.

People see cases up by a few thousand and think that is a worrying day.

They are not going to know why it matters that they are from three quarters of a million tests.

That stunning positivity number tells you this instantly.

As does its track over the last week or two. Down Down Down.

How can Boris and co not see this?

As soon as they paint it as good news and optimistic trends, the question becomes when can we ease things. If things continue as they are I think they'll be under pressure to bring forwards the March 8th target, whether that's the right thing to do or not

 

[Gabriel]

I read there's a call for wealthy countries to donate a certain % of vaccines to Covax who in turn will arrange distribution of these to vulnerable people globally. I'm not naive enough to think there's unlimited supply and wealthy conluntries will be all over it, but it's the right ideas behind it.

We need production, supply and distribution ramped up worldwide.

Might be naive, but given the perilous situation in which society finds itself, would it not make sense/have made sense for the pharmaceutical companies to have been brought under government control, with approved vaccines produced and rolled out globally? The companies would have moaned but would all have been handsomely compensated.

If we’re struggling now, imagine what the situation would have been like if only Pfizer had succeeded.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

week on week falling over 20% again.

we really need to start seeing some of this exit plan now out of lockdown.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Pity no press conference today the governmemt could set the media right and stop them posting today as another disaster.

Why on earth do they never promote the positivity numbers? I just don't get it.

People see cases up by a few thousand and think that is a worrying day.

They are not going to know why it matters that they are from three quarters of a million tests.

That stunning positivity number tells you this instantly.

As does its track over the last week or two. Down Down Down.

How can Boris and co not see this?

people relax as soon as it's a sign of good news. pretty obvious why they have to stress and highlight how bad it is.

 

[Healdplace]

Todays testing numbers are the highest ever in the UK at over 818,000 of all types (I only use the pillar 1 and 2 totals) and yet we find 9000 fewer cases than we did last Thursday when there were 176, 000 fewer tests.

Things certainly look better if you know that than just - cases went up 3372 since yesterday.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

people relax as soon as it's a sign of good news. pretty obvious why they have to stress and highlight how bad it is.

yep That’s why when the actual case falls are good they mention the ONS data surveys without actually providing the data as they did yesterday

 

[twosips]

week on week falling over 20% again.

we really need to start seeing some of this exit plan now out of lockdown.

Not really sure we do just yet to be honest. 25k-ish per day is still a ridiculously high amount, we're just desensitised to it. Let's be looking at much lower before that really. Bit of perspective - Australia have had 28,000 cases TOTAL over this pandemic. We had that today. Let's be a bit calmer and get out of it properly. We're far, far from close to being out of the woods.

Edit - and besides, we have a plan which I think we all know. Vaccinate, see figures dead low, crack on.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Not really sure we do just yet to be honest. 25k-ish per day is still a ridiculously high amount, we're just desensitised to it. Let's be looking at much lower before that really. Bit of perspective - Australia have had 28,000 cases TOTAL over this pandemic. We had that today. Let's be a bit calmer and get out of it properly. We're far, far from close to being out of the woods.

im not saying we release everything now

Christ boris is even saying he isn’t opening the schools until at the earliest 8 March but if cases keep falling 20% week on week then the least they can do is provide a roadmap out of it.

you know important stuff like when I can play golf again.

 

[Gray]

ssshhh don’t tell cleavers!!

I have been informed we will pass 700k in one day this week. Let’s hope so.

Not looking good, your informant wants admonishing. Think all our vaccine is being shipped to the EU to stop them from moaning.

 

[Chappie]

week on week falling over 20% again.

we really need to start seeing some of this exit plan now out of lockdown.

Know we don't
We need to keep on driving this disease down to virtual extinction.
They have tried the rushed approach twice, and we are back to square one, another 2 months of suppression and vaccination should finally get the country free, and allow us all some normality.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Know we don't
We need to keep on driving this disease down to virtual extinction.
They have tried the rushed approach twice, and we are back to square one, another 2 months of suppression and vaccination should finally get the country free, and allow us all some normality.

dont confuse me wanting to have an exit plan out of lockdown with me wanting mass raves tonight

schools aren’t opening for at least another 6 weeks so nothings going to open up quickly. I think to give people hope it would be nice to see the plan and the hurdles that need to be reached .

 

[kaz7]

week on week falling over 20% again.

we really need to start seeing some of this exit plan now out of lockdown.

Way to soon for getting out of lockdown ,the nhs is full still , that has to fall and they have to have breathing room again , no pun intended