Coronavirus (2021) thread

[cleavers]

As mentioned by someone else, maybe you need a break from here as you’re acting a bit of a prick.

I assume that was in a PM ?

I challenged worsley at the time because he was incorrect.

I've NEVER criticised the roll out of vaccines, which is as I have said many times, brilliant.

 

[Rammy Blue]

Nah, I'm not buying that. For vaccine supply to have such a direct impact, they would have to be using it literally as it's coming out of the factory, which we know isn't true, they have a store of 10-20 million doses and are distributing from that.

I agree, I thought the same. It doesn’t make sense, the only thing I could think of was the poor weather we had.

 

[worsleyweb]

I assume that was in a PM ?

I challenged worsley at the time because he was incorrect.

I've NEVER criticised the roll out of vaccines, which is as I have said many times, brilliant.

I 100 percent wasn’t incorrect!!! Context!!

but anyway not arsed. We are at 600k today / yesterday which was where my original point came from. Let’s hope we have a good week on it.

 

[Rammy Blue]

I assume that was in a PM ?

I challenged worsley at the time because he was incorrect.

I've NEVER criticised the roll out of vaccines, which is as I have said many times, brilliant.

Just leave it, you can’t let go of anything and I can’t be arsed conversing when you‘re being a mini hitler.

edit....oh, and just to alleviate your paranoia, no I don’t slag people off in a pm, I’m not that petty. It was Tim earlier who mentioned in this thread it wasn’t your best work the way you’re being, and funnily enough you had a sense of humour failure there too and called him a dick.

 

[kaz7]

Nah, I'm not buying that. For vaccine supply to have such a direct impact, they would have to be using it literally as it's coming out of the factory, which we know isn't true, they have a store of 10-20 million doses and are distributing from that.

Each batch is checked again before it reaches the vaccination centres , batch control, it can be slow or fast to happen and as rammy says the weather has played a part with the snow

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

I find the randomness of the vaccination numbers so bizarre.

How can we go from last week (16-23 Jan) being high 300's peaking with almost 500 on Saturday, then drop to 200's this week before smashing out 600k yesterday, again on Saturday?


Are these actually the daily numbers or is there some sort of lag in reporting?

Weekend volunteers must make a huge difference in the potential output. Some NHS staff are giving up their own time for this at weekends.

 

[blueyorkie]

Firstly, why would we need to social distance if no one who had the vaccine, (both doses) ended up in hospital.?

And secondly what do you mean when you say the NHS has to be protected at all costs. No economy means no NHS there has to be a balance Kaz.

I would guess that there will be some who refuse the vaccine & they could spread the virus

 

[unicorn]

I find the randomness of the vaccination numbers so bizarre.

How can we go from last week (16-23 Jan) being high 300's peaking with almost 500 on Saturday, then drop to 200's this week before smashing out 600k yesterday, again on Saturday?


Are these actually the daily numbers or is there some sort of lag in reporting?

I guess these aren't real-time numbers; they'll be compiled by NHS Admin staff and some parts of the country might well take longer than others to feed data into the system (not a criticism, I suspect there's skeleton staff in some places).

For context, some of the death numbers seem to be only reported on a weekly basis (and can cover multiple dates of death), so you get 30+ on a single day in small hospitals like King's Lynn skewing the reported numbers.

 

[Tonster]

The number of people suffering from the flu in England has plunged by more than 95% to levels not seen for 130 years.

Data experts at the Royal College of General Practices (RCGP) said that in the third week of January - usually a peak time for the flu - the number of flu-like illnesses reported to doctors was 0.9 per 100,000 people compared with a five-year average of 27.

COVID-19: Lockdowns and new health habits help number of flu sufferers fall to 130-year low

Out of 3.9 million patients at 385 GP practices across England last week, only 35 had the flu.

news.sky.com

I can see us naturally reverting to social distancing every winter , that would be a good thing

Really would it? No football then every winter?

 

[paulchapo]

The number of people suffering from the flu in England has plunged by more than 95% to levels not seen for 130 years.

Data experts at the Royal College of General Practices (RCGP) said that in the third week of January - usually a peak time for the flu - the number of flu-like illnesses reported to doctors was 0.9 per 100,000 people compared with a five-year average of 27.

COVID-19: Lockdowns and new health habits help number of flu sufferers fall to 130-year low

Out of 3.9 million patients at 385 GP practices across England last week, only 35 had the flu.

news.sky.com

I can see us naturally reverting to social distancing every winter , that would be a good thing

That's baffling and makes you wonder why. As covid is transmitted basically the same way, as far as I'm aware, could flu be also showing up as covid, or somehow merged with it and covid being the dominant factor being registered as covid?

I guess some people who may have gone to a doctor's with flu probably didn't due to the difficulty of actually getting to see a doctor. Also the extra sanitary precautions must have helped to limit it's spread.

 

[kaz7]

Really would it? No football then every winter?

Never thought about football , god i need to give my head a wobble

 

[Manc in London]

Just been for a bounce round the park.

Absolutely hammered.

Big groups of people out together.

Teenagers on bikes in big groups.

Not a mask in sight.

"Lockdown".

The park near my house was busy today. To be fair, today was the first weekend in what feels like a month where we have had dry weather or no ice. Can't blame people, tbh. Their kids would have been combing the walls. The groups were social distancing, if so it appeared.

 

[twosips]

The number of people suffering from the flu in England has plunged by more than 95% to levels not seen for 130 years.

Data experts at the Royal College of General Practices (RCGP) said that in the third week of January - usually a peak time for the flu - the number of flu-like illnesses reported to doctors was 0.9 per 100,000 people compared with a five-year average of 27.

COVID-19: Lockdowns and new health habits help number of flu sufferers fall to 130-year low

Out of 3.9 million patients at 385 GP practices across England last week, only 35 had the flu.

news.sky.com

I can see us naturally reverting to social distancing every winter , that would be a good thing

Nah. Telling people to give up on christmas every year and be on their own throughout the dark months? Zero chance of society accepting that miserable existence. What I hope is that now we have the MRNA vaccines we could actually produce better flu vaccines tbh. That'd be a real win. Dunno if it's possible, but it surely is.

 

[Bill]

Weekend volunteers must make a huge difference in the potential output. Some NHS staff are giving up their own time for this at weekends.

i had my jab today , reckon it was 50/50 volunteers / medics.

 

[Stoned Rose]

I’ll be honest though, I don't think there is too much wrong when people are outdoors. I’ve been for a 10 mile walk today and came across loads of people out and about, it’s a pleasant enough day and people are going stir crazy shut up indoors.

I agree mate but to call this a "lockdown" is pathetic.

 

[Gabriel]

Nah. Telling people to give up on christmas every year and be on their own throughout the dark months? Zero chance of society accepting that miserable existence. What I hope is that now we have the MRNA vaccines we could actually produce better flu vaccines tbh. That'd be a real win. Dunno if it's possible, but it surely is.

Rather hoping that nasal sprays will come to the fore later in the year. Vaccines will give us protection and nasal sprays, God willing, will reduce transmission.

 

[Rammy Blue]

I agree mate but to call this a "lockdown" is pathetic.

It’s a lockdown only if you want it to be, that’s for sure.

 

[blueparrot]

Really would it? No football then every winter?

Sport events, Gigs, theatres, pubs, cinemas, train stations airports buses and undergrounds. All the things people can’t wait to get back the minute they feel safe and are allowed.
Somethings might stay, hand washing, sanitiser in the pocket. Distancing and mask wearing not so much.
So flu, coughs colds will get back to normal and covid will still be around too. As long as any boosters needed are available to those at risk. Same as flu vaccines are.People will want to get back to places with crowds.

 

[feedthegoat27]

I assume that was in a PM ?

I challenged worsley at the time because he was incorrect.

I've NEVER criticised the roll out of vaccines, which is as I have said many times, brilliant.

Not to drag this on/up, but I think Cleavers is getting unnecessary grief over that back and forth.

I think WW said something along the lines of looking forward to averaging 500k jabs a day, on the back of a day being almost 500k.

Cleavers correctly pointed out that to get to the point of being able to average 500k a day, we'd need significantly more than just the odd day touching 500k when other days were around the 2/300k mark.

Paraphrasing above obviously but I think that was the gist of the conversation and reasoning, which then went off on a tangent.

Well done to all involved getting people jabbed, let's get this done asap so I can go on holiday again (sorry Kaz ;) )

 

[Rammy Blue]

Not to drag this on/up, but I think Cleavers is getting unnecessary grief over that back and forth.

I think WW said something along the lines of looking forward to averaging 500k jabs a day, on the back of a day being almost 500k.

Cleavers correctly pointed out that to get to the point of being able to average 500k a day, we'd need significantly more than just the odd day touching 500k when other days were around the 2/300k mark.

Paraphrasing above obviously but I think that was the gist of the conversation and reasoning, which then went off on a tangent.

Well done to all involved getting people jabbed, let's get this done asap so I can go on holiday again (sorry Kaz ;) )

We know exactly what he said, but he made a big deal out of it which was an unnecessary pop at worsley, and now has a sense of humour failure when there is a bit of banter.

But tbh, your post probably isn’t helping either as it’s dragging it on.

I suggest this is the end of it and we all just move on as bottom line is, as cleavers also said, that the vaccine rollout has been fantastic and it’s all good.