Coronavirus (2021) thread

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sky tot said:

What are people’s thoughts on these proposals ?
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Whilst I agree that plans are needed to start opening up slowly, I also think that there should be some consideration for the NHS hospital staff. Having been faced with so many COVID patients for so long, they will need some time to recover, but are likely to get swamped with catching up with other treatments needed that have been cancelled because of COVID. A&E will also undoubtedly have a pickup as we open up. I don’t work for the NHS, but l have great admiration for what they do every day and I suspect many of them are really struggling at the moment.
Big thanks to all on here, especially @Healdplace for all of the the daily info during this, I have been following Bluemoon for many years, and this thread has been really useful throughout.
 
Although the endless monotony is grinding myself and I'm sure many others down I am in favour of taking things slowly too. Let's get on top of this fucker properly, the press need to STFU they have been nothing but a disgrace throughout the pandemic. No surprise there.
 
Unfortunately no England hospital data updating today. They are having technical issues apparently. So it will be two days worth out tomorrow evening round now.
 
So, officially I'm on day 11 since positive test day, I'm generally fairly fit and this has totally wiped me out, I've gone deaf in one ear and still coughing up a lot of green phlegm, had an over the phone appointment with Dr this afternoon who has prescribed me a course of antibiotics, he said i've probably got a sinus infection as my immune system is shot to bits. It was touch and go around days 5 and 6 for me as the oxygen pulsometer they gave me I was getting readings of 91/92% and really struggling for breath, they said it was Hospital stay if it dropped to 90%. All in all, feel lucky I didn't need a hospital stay but I'm still feeling as Ill as I have for a long long time if ever. Keep safe Blues!
 
However, Greater Manchester data not too exciting.

A drop of just 3 from yesterdays 807 to 804.

So this week so far is showing the flatlining quite well:-

736, 723, 906, 736, 807, 804.

Hard to know whether to judge that as good (first all week sub 1000 numbers in a couple of months) or bad in that it is looking very flat. Little of both really. Depends where it goes from here.

As the NW total fell by 147 today this pushed up the GM split of the NW quite a bit.

Indeed it goes up by 3.1% to its highest split in many weeks of 44.3%

A month ago the split was 28%.


Within GM Bolton, Bury, Rochdale, Stockport and Wigan fall - mostly by only small numbers - though Bolton dropped under 100 again.

The other 5 all up but again by small margins. Trafford though rising with Stockport falling still ate another bite out of Stockport's overall Pop Score lead to be within potentially two or three days of capturing that title.

Bury had the best day at 46. Manchester the other end was up to 160. But every day this week sub 200 means like almost everywhere in GM better week to week numbers that mean the pop scores are still falling slowly.

Even Salford who jumped over 100 to 103 today was actually better week to week on that score.
 
Watch out for a delayed reaction.
I had my AZ jab on Friday morning.
No reaction
Until
This morning 48 hours later I feel like shit.
Been in bed most of the day drinking gallons of tea.
 
Pandemic on and my street is having an on/off power cut. Naturally I decided to sit here in the dark as the other option was being arrested for going for a walk.
 
sky tot said:
Yea that’s a good point about teaching staff
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Thanks but it’s not just about vaccinating teachers or teachers feeling safer in the classroom.

It is about community spread.

The arguments from SAGE etc about the problem of opening schools isn't one of concern for individual teachers, it is one of understanding what opening widely and quickly will do.

From SAGE papers released last week, we know they told govt last summer that opening schools would increase transmission, and not that schools reflect community transmission (the line the govt used and heads etc.).

I would therefore prefer to see SAGE and independent experts forming a consensus in agreement with opening before this actually happens.
 
Invisible Man's Bandage said:
So you haven't got involved and said over the last couple of weeks that you want a quicker appointment for your Mum and that you were prepared to drive her to a vaccination site outside of her village. Clearly there will be isolated cases of administrative errors or a relative handful of people who are in logistically difficult places but when 15 million people have received their first jab when yesterday's figures are announced later its a bit of a stretch to say that Johnson will say 'anything'.
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All I was pointing out was that Boris had said in the North East 100% of over 80s had been vaccinated. Not true. They have just started in the last few days in the Durham dales. Just pr spin by our fool of a PM
 
Just some personal thoughts and I think one thing to note with the lowering cases and increasing vaccine protection is that as numbers of priority groups descend, the consequential IFR of covid must now decrease at a far greater rate.

IFR was estimated at anything from 0.5 to 1% (I think I read a reasonable guideline was 0.7%) but that of course includes young uns where it's <0.1 and very old ones where it was >10%.

As the severe disease burden drops in the older categories, the overall population IFR crashes. The hospitalisation threat of opening up too quickly in spring is now not the same as the autumn due to this, plus the better weather on top.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Mum was similar. Ok for a couple of days then completely wiped out last week with shivers and lack of energy.
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Wife had her first jab at 1:30pm yesterday, this morning she felt worn out and went back to bed. Got back up at 3pm and is bouncing around the house now dishing out instructions.
 
Some question the actual death toll when so many are being put down as Covid when it’s other symptoms that played a larger part in their death. Ie: if they have Covid and got hit by a bus. They would be recorded as a Covid death.
How accurate is that ?
 
I had that extreme fatigue too on the night after my jab (Tuesday) and it was the only thing different from any other jab I have ever had. I slept really well after going to bed early. The mildly sore arm thing lasted about 48 hours. Pretty similar to how the flu jab often does.

The leaflet you get with the jab says the sore arm and tiredness are in the most common reactions.

So nothing to worry about.

It means your immune system is being sent the message to rev up the engines and be on alert.
 
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