Angelino

Bitter. He was nowhere near good enough.

I don't buy his claims at all. He got plenty of chances. He was just poor.

Most of the time he looked completely lost defensively - his positioning, marking, decision making looked awful.

Mendy is a better defender. For all the stick he gets, he's been pretty solid defensively since his injuries, bar the occasional clanger (not unlike Walker). It's going forwards where he needs to improve massively IMO.
 
bluesclues123 said:
His complaints are valid. My complaints are mostly that we didn't get as much money out of the deal as we should have.
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“Judged me after two games” -> Not sure how's that valid? Pep played him some more games after those 2 friendlies. Didn't Pep evaluate Angelino's performance in those games?

And then, ask yourselves whether Pep let players play against each other in training? What was Pep doing while he coached Angelino in those training sessions? Did Pep just ignore his training performance while Angelino himself admitted that Pep taught him a lot?

Now, compare the whole situation with Zinchenko who didn't play for us for many games straight at the beginning of this season (and other previous seasons).
 
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balotelli's back pocket said:
Bitter. He was nowhere near good enough.

I don't buy his claims at all. He got plenty of chances. He was just poor.

Most of the time he looked completely lost defensively - his positioning, marking, decision making looked awful.

Mendy is a better defender. For all the stick he gets, he's been pretty solid defensively since his injuries, bar the occasional clanger (not unlike Walker). It's going forwards where he needs to improve massively IMO.
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Mendy is gash
 
He might have some valid gripes at his overall treatment by City. A decent player in the right set-up who is worth more than we got for him.
However, nowhere does he seem to take personal responsibility and admit his performances for us when he got the chance weren’t all that great either.
 
I think the written word is set to an agenda, read it and without the headlines which would have nothing to do with him thought it was a fair piece.
Nobody should be content to sit on their arse and take a pay packet when you can play for another club every week.
Perhaps Pep thought he wasn't a good fit, he admitted he learnt from him and did something about it so no issues with that.
A short career so making the most of it from where stand is backing himself, good luck to the lad.
 
He was not good enough. Passing and positioning was awful. I am happy for the lad. We(the fans) were desperate for anyone to play LB due to the problems with Mendy. He maybe didn’t get a good crack at it but pep had seen enough on the occasions he did play.
 
Don’t begrudge him any bitterness. We bought him back and benched him. It was unusual and I’m sure very frustrating. At least we sold him back there on a sweetheart deal so I think we did OK by him in the end but no issues with him saying a few negative things
 
khoitnm said:
“Judged me after two games” -> Not sure how's that valid? Pep played him some more games after those 2 friendlies. Didn't Pep evaluate Angelino's performance in those games?

And then, ask yourselves whether Pep let players play against each other in training? What was Pep doing while he coached Angelino in those training sessions? Did Pep just ignore his training performance while Angelino himself admitted that Pep taught him a lot?

Now, compare the whole situation with Zinchenko who didn't play for us for many games straight at the beginning of this season (and other previous seasons).
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There was one game against the Scousers where he was catastrophic. No surprise Pep didnt trust him after that. Also, it still seems to be forgotten that he doesnt play as a left back for Leipzig - he is an attacking wing back. Doesnt fit into our team framework in any way.
 
balotelli's back pocket said:
Bitter. He was nowhere near good enough.

I don't buy his claims at all. He got plenty of chances. He was just poor.

Most of the time he looked completely lost defensively - his positioning, marking, decision making looked awful.

Mendy is a better defender. For all the stick he gets, he's been pretty solid defensively since his injuries, bar the occasional clanger (not unlike Walker). It's going forwards where he needs to improve massively IMO.
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He was simply not good enough, he was brought back to be sold on for profit.

I do think we need to be careful with these types of deals, we are going to get a reputation for using young players to make profit with no intention of the said players making it at MCFC.
 
I think the club bought him to make a quick profit. They were never going to tell him that though.
So i feel for him. I think the club/Pep knew that he wasn't going to fit into Pep's tactics.
 
balotelli's back pocket said:
Bitter. He was nowhere near good enough.

I don't buy his claims at all. He got plenty of chances. He was just poor.

Most of the time he looked completely lost defensively - his positioning, marking, decision making looked awful.

Mendy is a better defender. For all the stick he gets, he's been pretty solid defensively since his injuries, bar the occasional clanger (not unlike Walker). It's going forwards where he needs to improve massively IMO.
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He was bloody rubbish against Liverpool last season.
 
I remember being struck by how bad he seemed when he first returned after the buyback.

I was excited to see what he could offer but he stuck out like a sore thumb compared to the rest of the squad.

I do think that maybe he should have got some chances after getting to learn the way the team play but his strengths did not match what the team needed.

Hope he has a successful career but cannot see him as a true left back in the Premier League for any side in the top 2/3's of the table.
 
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