#9 | Gabriel Jesus - 2020/21 Performances

[decmancity]

He needed that goal otherwise he may have really slipped into a bad place. Last week or at some point in some game recently he missed a chance and he was punching himself in the head he was so angry. I think he feels the immense pressure and it really gets to him when he messes up a chance. Sam Lee has reported similar in the podcast he does on the athletic also.

You cannot fault the work he puts in on the pitch and he genuinely is just missing that one final ingredient to get the killer instinct. That chance he had last night is probably a goal from Haaland or Aguero. He barely looked at the goal, he was more focused on trying to find someone to pass the ball to and then he took one glance and it was too late.
Was really made up when he nicked that goal though, would have really helped him.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

typical Gabby.

 

[Blu1]

We need a main striker end of. Aguero may have one more season but will get injured. Jesus has so much potential & offers a different approach to games but he’s not ready as main striker for city. Too much pressure on him. Saying that he works more than anybody so I only have great respect for him.

Let’s get haaland & rotate Aguero & Jesus over the next 18 months.

 

[aguero93:20]

Premier League - Conversion rate 25/26

This statistic provides a detailed overview of the chances and their conversion rate of all teams of the Premier League in the season {season}.

www.transfermarkt.com

But this is for teams. I'll try to look for players', but you can also do the math yourself :)

EDIT:
https://www.infogol.net/en/player/gabriel-jesus/7555

Found one, there you go :)

Premier League
Goals 4
Expected Goals 4.7
Champions League
Goals 2
Expected Goals 1.91
Not bad. Fuck all point counting shots without counting the quality of the chances.

 

[Sir peace frog]

thought he was brilliant again, very hesitant on his 1 on 1 which is strange, he usually goes for it, may be a little bit of a confidence issue, however ,wasnt it nice seeing sergio come back :)

 

[bluesclues123]

Premier League
Goals 4
Expected Goals 4.7
Champions League
Goals 2
Expected Goals 1.91
Not bad. Fuck all point counting shots without counting the quality of the chances.

...in what world is 4 goals in 1200 league minutes not bad for a manchester city striker. i swear to god the standard has been lowered so much.

all this proves is that not only does he underperform how many goals he should get, he barely puts himself in positions *to get goals*. give me sterling who at least gets himself into places to bag easy tap-ins all day long.

Premier League - List of goalscorers 20/21 (Detailed view)

Diese Statistik zeigt in der Detailansicht die Torjägerliste der Premier League aus der Saison 20/21, absteigend geordnet nach erzielten Treffern.

www.transfermarkt.com

sort by "minutes per goal" - jesus comes up at number 22, behind almost all other strikers in the league. He's basically where martial, werner and firmino are, ALL considered widely to be having a diabolical season.

I understand how people are trying to spin his *overall contribution* as respectable, but still completely baffled as how people try to spin his *numbers* as anything but shambolic.

 

[aguero93:20]

...in what world is 4 goals in 1200 league minutes not bad for a manchester city striker. i swear to god the standard has been lowered so much.

all this proves is that not only does he underperform how many goals he should get, he barely puts himself in positions *to get goals*. give me sterling who at least gets himself into places to bag easy tap-ins all day long.

Premier League - List of goalscorers 20/21 (Detailed view)

Diese Statistik zeigt in der Detailansicht die Torjägerliste der Premier League aus der Saison 20/21, absteigend geordnet nach erzielten Treffern.

www.transfermarkt.com

sort by "minutes per goal" - jesus comes up at number 22, behind basically every other striker in the league. He's basically where martial, werner and firmino are, ALL considered widely to be having a diabolical season.

I understand how people are trying to spin his *overall contribution* as respectable, but still completely baffled as how people try to spin his *numbers* as anything but shambolic.

He's hardly playing as an out and out striker though is he? There's fuck all point comparing him with strikers whose only job is to stay between the posts and score goals.
I'm not saying he's having a great goalscoring season, but the post i replied to was questioning his conversion rate. There's fuck all wrong with his conversion rate.

 

[borassic]

He was fantastic on the turn last night as well as the one twos. Just seems that his final touch for a pass or a shot usually lets him down. Hope that’s just confidence as there’s a seriously good striker in there somewhere.

 

[bluesclues123]

He's hardly playing as an out and out striker though is he? There's fuck all point comparing him with strikers whose only job is to stay between the posts and score goals.
I'm not saying he's having a great goalscoring season, but the post i replied to was questioning his conversion rate. There's fuck all wrong with his conversion rate.

I don't understand why people keep saying it - he's absolutely playing as an out and out striker! He's definitely not playing on the wings, and I disagree that he really comes THAT deep to not be considered playing at striker.

Does anyone have his average position in relation to the rest of the team's average position? Because he'd DEFINTIELY be the most forward. I don't understand where this notion that he's not playing as a striker comes from.

There's nothing wrong with his conversion rate - there's something very wrong about his goalscoring abilities, namely the amount of chances he's getting

In fact, let's compare him to other city players who are DEFINITELY not playing as strikers -

Gundo - a goal every 133 minutes
Foden - a goal every 200 minutes
Sterling - a goal every 208 minutes
Mahrez - a goal every 218 minutes

Are any of those players playing as strikers?

 

[Sir peace frog]

...in what world is 4 goals in 1200 league minutes not bad for a manchester city striker. i swear to god the standard has been lowered so much.

all this proves is that not only does he underperform how many goals he should get, he barely puts himself in positions *to get goals*. give me sterling who at least gets himself into places to bag easy tap-ins all day long.

Premier League - List of goalscorers 20/21 (Detailed view)

Diese Statistik zeigt in der Detailansicht die Torjägerliste der Premier League aus der Saison 20/21, absteigend geordnet nach erzielten Treffern.

www.transfermarkt.com

sort by "minutes per goal" - jesus comes up at number 22, behind almost all other strikers in the league. He's basically where martial, werner and firmino are, ALL considered widely to be having a diabolical season.

I understand how people are trying to spin his *overall contribution* as respectable, but still completely baffled as how people try to spin his *numbers* as anything but shambolic.

so we should go for josh maja ? is that what your going on about, he's got the best goals to minutes ?

see where your constant bleating gets you, nowhere, you wont listen that he isn'tplaying as an out and out forward though

 

[aguero93:20]

Does anyone have his average position in relation to the rest of the team's average position? Because he'd DEFINTIELY be the most forward. I don't understand where this notion that he's not playing as a striker comes from.

Don't have the map but Foden was the most advanced player last night. Sterling probably had more touches in the box.

 

[decmancity]

I don't understand why people keep saying it - he's absolutely playing as an out and out striker! He's definitely not playing on the wings, and I disagree that he really comes THAT deep to not be considered playing at striker.

Does anyone have his average position in relation to the rest of the team's average position? Because he'd DEFINTIELY be the most forward. I don't understand where this notion that he's not playing as a striker comes from.

There's nothing wrong with his conversion rate - there's something very wrong about his goalscoring abilities, namely the amount of chances he's getting

In fact, let's compare him to other city players who are DEFINITELY not playing as strikers -

Gundo - a goal every 133 minutes
Foden - a goal every 200 minutes
Sterling - a goal every 208 minutes
Mahrez - a goal every 218 minutes

Are any of those players playing as strikers?

Have you considered that they are scoring those goals because of the work Jesus is doing because there has been more than a few goals this season that if you look at the full picture you will see Jesus started the move, pulled away a defender, provided the assist or generally was involved in the play.

Jesus is not some 6ft 4 lump up front that we just hit the ball to, he is part of a fluid attacking 6. He drops in and out of positions to allow others to take up space etc.

The point should be that everyone is scoring, not just Jesus. For too long we relied on the likes of Aguero to pull us out of that shit because no one else in the team scored, now we are frequently ending up with 4/5/6 players a season end up on 10+ goals which is what Pep wants and is what get success.

 

[Sir peace frog]

every single player is giving their all and cannot be faulted, all we as fans should ask is players giving 100% nothing more, of course we want the best players in the world playing for city, but this isn't fifa or fm this is real life and our team(well my team) are un. fucking . real, so i wont hear of one player in this group being slagged off.

 

[Sir peace frog]

Don't have the map but Foden was the most advanced player last night. Sterling probably had more touches in the box.

no no no no no no no no no no no no no , i wont have it, jesus is the CF not foden , no no no no no no no no
JeSUs IstN GoOD En0uGH

 

[mosssideblue]

Have you considered that they are scoring those goals because of the work Jesus is doing because there has been more than a few goals this season that if you look at the full picture you will see Jesus started the move, pulled away a defender, provided the assist or generally was involved in the play.

Jesus is not some 6ft 4 lump up front that we just hit the ball to, he is part of a fluid attacking 6. He drops in and out of positions to allow others to take up space etc.

The point should be that everyone is scoring, not just Jesus. For too long we relied on the likes of Aguero to pull us out of that shit because no one else in the team scored, now we are frequently ending up with 4/5/6 players a season end up on 10+ goals which is what Pep wants and is what get success.

wasting your time bud. He is using raw stats as the basis of his argument and not actually watching games

 

[Fiftyyearsandcounting]

We need a main striker end of. Aguero may have one more season but will get injured. Jesus has so much potential & offers a different approach to games but he’s not ready as main striker for city. Too much pressure on him. Saying that he works more than anybody so I only have great respect for him.

Let’s get haaland & rotate Aguero & Jesus over the next 18 months.

Difficult to know whether Pep wants a new striker or not. He will never criticise his players in public but his frustration was clear with Sterling and Jesus missing good chances or making wrong choices.
He talked, in his post match interview, about being more clinical but then suggested there was "Nothing I can do, the players have the quality to score, they must be more clinical".
Does that mean he's supporting the front players publicly but quietly scouting elsewhere?

 

[aguero93:20]

Difficult to know whether Pep wants a new striker or not. He will never criticise his players in public but his frustration was clear with Sterling and Jesus missing good chances or making wrong choices.
He talked, in his post match interview, about being more clinical but then suggested there was "Nothing I can do, the players have the quality to score, they must be more clinical".
Does that mean he's supporting the front players publicly but quietly scouting elsewhere?

Probably just meant what he said. He can coach the players but he can't put the ball in the net for them.

 

[bluesclues123]

wasting your time bud. He is using raw stats as the basis of his argument and not actually watching games

Oh no, not raw stats!

laughable.

 

[mosssideblue]

Oh no, not raw stats!

laughable.

Why is it laughable as that is the only thing you are proffering. You clearly are not watching the games.

 

[Blue Coop]

I know it’s been done a thousand times over, but I just find it difficult to see Jesus in a front 3 long-term at City as a first choice pick. He’s had his opportunities to show he can replace Aguero but fallen short for me - I find him frustrating because he can be so brilliant one minute and so wasteful the next.

If he’s happy to remain part of the squad then he’s a massive asset because he definitely has talent and offers something a bit different, but he could go and be a decent first choice striker at many other clubs. I don’t think he’ll ever reach the top.