Coronavirus (2021) thread

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BlueHammer85 said:
I don't want to sound negative... but wouldn't the death and infection figures be this low anyway because we've been in lockdown so long ? especially now 2 months after the xmas gatherings, most after that have roughly adhered the rules and stayed in and isolated - I'm really happy that they're dropping fast, but surely this is expected with or without the vaccine.
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Do you ever post anything positive just cos your teams going to get HAMMERED at weekend
 
BlueHammer85 said:
I don't want to sound negative... but wouldn't the death and infection figures be this low anyway because we've been in lockdown so long ? especially now 2 months after the xmas gatherings, most after that have roughly adhered the rules and stayed in and isolated - I'm really happy that they're dropping fast, but surely this is expected with or without the vaccine.
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The majority of the reduction is because of the lockdown.

But already, at a *very* rough estimate, there would be ~10-20% more deaths without the vaccine, and that proportion will increase massively over the next few weeks.
 
According to this article around 80% of delivered AZ doses to the EU are still unused. Some countries are unbelievably low.

www.theguardian.com

Revealed: four in five Oxford Covid jabs delivered to EU not yet used

Guardian finding comes as Angela Merkel talks of vaccine’s ‘acceptance problem’
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Maybe the increased output at the Belgian site will be diverted to the UK as they clearly don't want it.
 
England hospital data - more good news:

Patients- Down 558 in day to 12, 449 - was 15, 633 last Thursday.

Ventilators Down 65 in day to 1866 - was 2316 last Thursday

Regionally: P /// V versus last Thursday


East down 72 to 1344 v 1679 /// up 1 to 149 v 190

London down 132 to 2371 v 3059 /// down 27 to 577 v 706

Midlands down 99 to 2776 v 3280 /// down 11 to 376 v 442

NE/Yorks down 53 to 1894 v 2305 /// down 5 to 232 v 278

North West down 108 to 1830 v 2322 /// down 4 to 233 v 290

South East down 62 to 1624 v 2116 /// down 5 to 227 v 295

South West down 30 to 610 v 872 /// down 14 to 72 v 115


Pretty much continuous falls now day after day everywhere
 
According to the BBC news just now there 'are 'still 17,000 in hospital'.

But it appears to actually be 14, 862 in the UK as of today.

Even Gov UK says just over 16,000 and they are a day behind.

So the BBC are another day behind on that.
 
Invisible Man's Bandage said:
According to this article around 80% of delivered AZ doses to the EU are still unused. Some countries are unbelievably low.

www.theguardian.com

Revealed: four in five Oxford Covid jabs delivered to EU not yet used

Guardian finding comes as Angela Merkel talks of vaccine’s ‘acceptance problem’
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Maybe the increased output at the Belgian site will be diverted to the UK as they clearly don't want it.
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You reap what you sow, Macron and the German minister that openly questioned the efficiency of the AZ vaccine are largely to blame.
 
True_Blue69 said:
The masses going to beaches in Britain over summer reportedly had no impact on cases so hopefully that will be the same. Doesn’t seem to spread at all outside.
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Just hope that's true for the more infectious British variant, which is now the dominant strain in many countries.
 
Gabriel said:
Just hope that's true for the more infectious British variant, which is now the dominant strain in many countries.
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I’m clinging to the hope that the size of our current wave is based on the variants and that the uptick in cases across other European countries and the US etc are based on them now getting the variants, and consequently we won’t get the uptick, if you get my drift.
 
Healdplace said:
According to the BBC news just now there 'are 'still 17,000 in hospital'.

But it appears to actually be 14, 862 in the UK as of today.

Even Gov UK says just over 16,000 and they are a day behind.

So the BBC are another day behind on that.
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Where does your data for the nations other than England come from, please ?

I'm sure your right. NHS England has 12,449 in beds in today's report (25/2); been plummeting 500+ a day. So 14, 862 sounds logical.

Irritating that the Gov UK figures are out of step with NHS England data, understating our great progress.
 
Rammy Blue said:
I’m clinging to the hope that the size of our current wave is based on the variants and that the uptick in cases across other European countries and the US etc are based on them now getting the variants, and consequently we won’t get the uptick, if you get my drift.
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The Netherlands already had the then ‘Kent variant’ in December and went back into lockdown even before the U.K., but the last couple of weeks have seen primary schools return and, subsequently, a steady increase in cases and a large increase in cases amongst those <12. Hope the U.K. can avoid that uptick, but people should be cautioned and be vigilant.
There’s also precious little vaccine to go round in the Netherlands, so the next 4 months are going to be tough.
 
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