United (H) Post Match Thread

[Tokyo32]

At the end of the day people only want to know the result...not bothered about the record just losing to them twats caused by ourselves...Pep....changes tactics instead of sticking with a winning combo..always happens in key games...

Lol what tactics did he change?

 

[Josh_D]

There’s somewhat of an imbalance with a certain selection of players. Kev is like a bow pulled back ready to let the arrow fly at any moment. His play style makes it hard for Gundo to arrive late in the box, and leaves the team open to counter due to being direct and more recently being out of form.

Bernardo’s ball retention ability and energy are very much complimentary and necessary. He can chase back, hound and press. If you shift Kev to F9, Foden and Bernardo can give the midfield much needed legs and energy even if Kev loses possession. You’d have direct play with Foden and the ‘pausa’ ability with Bernardo.

I may be talking a load of shite but either Gundy or Kev have to miss out occasionally as it doesn’t seem to work as well when they play together.

edit: missing word

 

[Tokyo32]

Name us a winger who is available and going to get us over 100 goals in 5 seasons.

Any good winger not named sterling? Sterling holds us back hth

 

[jonny689]

Pep v Mancini is like chalk and cheese.

Mancini got us. He knows what it meant to put these bastards in their place. Whereas pep just sees it as another game.

Zinchenko? Left back. Who were you putting there? Cancelo? He’d a stinker. Zinchenko one of the better players out there today.

Yeah Cancelo left back and Walker right back for me. Zinny wasn’t one of the worst but I think Walker had to start today just for his pace. Poor today from Pep and the players.

 

[Dax777]

Having a moan is cathartic.

Also, justified. That team selection was shit. Use of subs, shit. Pep is pretty shit when things don't go perfectly to plan

Hes either too stubborn to admit he got the selection and plan wrong

In not sure he got the selection wrong. Any City 11 can bear United. Literally any! Yes, the most guaranteed to likely win wasn't the 11 he put out. But we are more talented and should have gotten past them with who we had.


Bad result. Unlucky and unfortunate to be unlucky against them.


Going forward though, the most in forn 11 should be chosen without fear.

Eddy
Cancelo/ Walker
Zinchencko/Cancelo
Dias
Stones
Rodri
Gundogan
Bernado
Foden
Jesus
Plus one of:
Kevin/Mahrez/Sterling.

That's our current most in form 11

 

[Bentheblue]

One game we got it wrong no one to blame we move on 11pts clear

Frustrating Pep got wrong again in the home Derby, a game most City fans consider one of the most important games of the season.
Third home loss on the bounce to the rags.
Hard to compute one of the worlds best managers keeps getting it wrong in important games.

 

[citytill1die84]

Any good winger not named sterling? Sterling holds us back hth

He said name 1?

 

[Nightmare Walking]

Any good winger not named sterling? Sterling holds us back hth

Name them.

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

Any good winger not named sterling? Sterling holds us back hth

Holds us back from what?!

 

[Greenjob]

I did comment about the M/F 3 with Rodri, Gundog and KDB being slow on the pre match thread (page 13 top). Sadly it proved to be correct today. That game out of all of them this season should have been the easiest Pep selection to predict. His (Peps') complacency cost us today and his failure to arrest the sloppiness with subs just licks me out even more. :(

 

[Craig]

Name them.

Is he a good finisher or skilful winger?

 

[lasereyes]

Now that is a real fan. I'll be rewatching once it gets on Peacock later tonight..

I have to see what really happened. My current sense is that it was a smash and grab. But we had some issues. Even on defense a few cracks seemed to show up. :(


I'll review later.

Rookie mistake in 1st minute, gave the ball away (KDB, Cancelo in particular), no composure in front of goal. Not too much more than that from what I saw

 

[The blue phantom]

We're all on the floor. Pep gives us the greatest football the Prem has ever seen and breaks records, but some still have a moan because 'it's cathartic'. Thankfully, the greatest coach in the world coaches us and not some catharsis seeking fan who thinks that from his living room he knows vital details that Pep doesn't. If you are a blue, and I assume you are without being certain, support your record breaking, history making team !!

Even the Scousers arnt as critical on their team & Manager as folk on here and theve lost 6 on the bounce. It really beggars belief, Theve got a bit of bragging rights for a day and a bit of fun on Facebook, I've honestly never been as less pissed off at losing a Derby, We're winning the PL again so overall they'll be hurting like fuck even though theve still won.

 

[ROCKET80]

There’s somewhat of an imbalance with a certain selection of players. Kev is like a bow pulled back ready to let the arrow fly at any moment. His play style makes it hard for Gundo to arrive late in the box, and leaves the team open to counter due to being direct and more recently being out of form.

Bernardo’s ball retention ability and energy are very much complimentary and necessary. He can chase back, hound and press. If you shift Kev to F9, Foden and Bernardo can give the midfield much needed legs and energy even if Kev loses possession. You’d have direct play with Foden and the ‘pausa’ ability with Bernardo.

I may be talking a load of shite but either Gundy or Kev have to miss out occasionally as it doesn’t seem to work as well when they play together.

edit: missing word

I think KDB needs to play the false 9, like he did v Chelsea, for us to get the best out of him and Gundogan. He also played the role pretty well v Barcelona a while ago till Bravo had his brain fart.

The line up in that game is arguably our best (Ederson replacing Steffan of course).

 

[lasereyes]

Fucking hell I got the sequence of games wrong, well shoot me (or write an essay). In one of the last 4 seasons we played a significant and successful portion of the season playing a midfield 3 of Gundogan Silva and Silva. Is that fucking vague enough for you or are you going to find me and twat me with your ring binder full of facts?

You pretty much walked into it with your high-handed, wise-after-the-fact posts around who should have played in this game

 

[Nightmare Walking]

Is he a good finisher or skilful winger?

He's an attacking threat who offers goals and assists. Yes he is skillful and can beat a man in tight spaces. He's not clinical and can look cumbersome at times. But he is a different string to our bow and had been one of the key reasons we have been so successful over the last few seasons.
Now I would not have started him today, I would have started Phil. But there is no way on this earth that I would be looking to replace Raheem. Yes his misses are infuriating. But no one has yet to offer a viable alternative to how we can improve on him.
He has 113 goals in 279 games for us. Can someone come up with a name for a winger who can replicate that output, is available and who we can afford? It's alright saying get rid, but who do we replace him with?

 

[domalino]

Now that is a real fan. I'll be rewatching once it gets on Peacock later tonight..

I have to see what really happened. My current sense is that it was a smash and grab. But we had some issues. Even on defense a few cracks seemed to show up. :(


I'll review later.

The defence is definitely looking weaker since Pep started rotating to keep people happy.


Yes it's important to keep Laporte happy, and Ake when he gets back but Pep needs to settle at some point because the longer he's rotated the 3 CBs, the weaker the defence is looking.

 

[Tokyo32]

Holds us back from what?!

Greatness. We need wingers that can bail us out themselves when we are poor not bottle chances others create

 

[Akpowell]

The fucking bastards I'm still hurting

 

[MeatHunterrr]

He's an attacking threat who offers goals and assists. Yes he is skillful and can beat a man in tight spaces. He's not clinical and can look cumbersome at times. But he is a different string to our bow and had been one of the key reasons we have been so successful over the last few seasons.
Now I would not have started him today, I would have started Phil. But there is no way on this earth that I would be looking to replace Raheem. Yes his misses are infuriating. But no one has yet to offer a viable alternative to how we can improve on him.
He has 113 goals in 279 games for us. Can someone come up with a name for a winger who can replicate that output, is available and who we can afford? It's alright saying get rid, but who do we replace him with?

If we want to go to truly to the next level, i.e a serious powerhouse winning the CL every 5 years or so and making semis regularly on top of that, then we simply have to sign galactio or two to our frontline

Sanchez was very good for Barcelona, like Sterling overall for us now, but they went to next level by selling Sanchez and signing Suarez, won the treble.

City need something like this now to really break the ceiling.