Coronavirus (2021) thread

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jimharri said:
Your posts keep getting pulled because you insist on posting political comments in this thread, despite repeated reminders to place such posts in the relevant thread in the politics subforum. It isn't rocket science fella.
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I meant pulled all together but if I looked at the number of times the word government has been stated in the 1773 pages to date it would be significant.
jimharri said:
Your posts keep getting pulled because you insist on posting political comments in this thread, despite repeated reminders to place such posts in the relevant thread in the politics subforum. It isn't rocket science fella.
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Their must be some technological issue jimharri as I have no incoming record or any reminders but I will concur so thanks for the advice.
 
Only 85 of the 97 England hospital deaths today occurred within the past month.

The last date on which over 100 deaths are recorded is 8 March where there were 107 after 5 days and 109 as of today. 7 March is still under 100 - was 88 now 93.

The five day totals since 8 Mar are 91 - 81 - 90 - 67 - 74.

We might not see another three figure total. Let us hope so.

Last time we were this low was 14 October.
 
mancity1 said:
Their must be some technological issue jimharri as I have no incoming record or any reminders but I will concur so thanks for the advice.
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General reminders, not aimed specifically at you but at the whole forum. There's a reason why there's a political subforum. People didn’t want to be reading tons of political point scoring (from any side) in the off topic forum. As for there being significant mentions of government in this thread, I don't doubt it for a second. A forum this size, is practically impossible to police without reports from members. If a report comes in, we'll look at it. If you have an issue with that, feel free to pm Ric.
 
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Northern Ireland data:

1 death - was 9 last week

169 cases - was 223 last week

9.2% positivity - was 10.6% last week

1152 rolling weekly cases total - was 1277 last week.

12 Care Home outbreaks - was 14 last week

167 patients - down 9 in day - was 189 last week

14 ventilated - same as yesterday - was 19 last week

More good numbers here. Everything down.
 
jimharri said:
General reminders, not aimed specifically at you but at the whole forum. There's a reason why there's a political subforum. People didn’t want to be reading tons of political point scoring (from any side) in the off topic forum. If you have an issue with that, feel free to pm Ric.
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No worries jimharri and again appreciated.

I don't often read all the posts and wasn't even aware of the political sub forum until you pointed it out to me.

I certainly have no issue with that at all in fact having this sub forum is a good idea FWMOIW if it doesn't compromise the bandwidth of any other forums.
 
England hospital deaths week to week:-

494 / 60 NW / 12%

309 / 42 NW / 13% (37 % fall wk to wk)

254 / 47 NW/ 19% (18 % fall wk to wk)

184 / 30 NW / 16% (28 % fall wk to wk)

159 / 22 NW / 14% (14 % fall wk to wk)

97 / 17 NW / 18% (39 % fall wk to wk) Today

So biggest fall has come in past week.
 
Cityfan said:
Think it depends what you mean by stopping you catching it or passing it on. There is increasing evidence from several studies that it both decreases your chances of catching it and spreading it.
Nothing works 100% but we don't stop making seat belts compulsory in cars because some people still die in car crashes despite seat belts.
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If it gets proven then I'm all for it. If it doesn't it's pointless.
 
Todays 3 nation cases without England is 1090 - or imo actually 991.

Wk to wk:- 1493 v 1317 v 1294 v 930 v 1009 v 1090 (though 991 if you do not count the 99 Welsh cases found under the sofa and added today to the numbers although all these are actually from January and so not relevant to the above pattern as they all predate every week in it)


So cases are proving harder to drive down but they are not soaring.


And during those smaller falls or even recent rises as we do more and more testing the deaths have continued to drop with little sign of stopping.


The vaccine would impact deaths more than cases at least initially because we are vaccinating the most vulnerable and testing more the ones least likely to have had a vaccine but most likely to test positive as they are 'out there' mixing by necessity and not shielding.

So the numbers match the best pattern we could hope to see in my reading if it.

Though happy to be corrected by the true experts on this thread if I am misreading this as I may well be.
 
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True_Blue69 said:
If it gets proven then I'm all for it. If it doesn't it's pointless.
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Proof, as they say, is for mathematics and whisky.

Here we're in a realm of uncertainty.

We *know* the vaccine is not 100% effective.
We have very good evidence already it reduces transmission.
We also know we are unlikely to ever be able to be precise about how much transmission.

So it will never be proven, it's a judgement on the balance of evidence.

Like I say, personally, I wouldn't take a strong position either way.
 
Claytop said:
www.bbc.co.uk

AstraZeneca: UK and EU clot reviews confirm safety of vaccine

Regulators give reassurance and advice on rare blood clot symptoms, such as headache lasting days.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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EMA agree too...

AstraZeneca vaccine is 'safe and effective' and benefits outweigh any risks, says EMA​

EMA chief Emer Cooke says the committee has ruled “this is a safe and effective vaccine” and the benefits outweigh any possible risks. The jab is not associated with an increase in the overall risk of thromboembolic events or blood clots, she adds.
 
Clot review is an apt name. As it suggests the clots were reviewing and not reviewing the clots.

I do get the need to safety check. But they could have done that quietly in hours as it turned out. So to diss the vaccine in advance of that 2 day wait is crazy.

Hold off saying anything and even quietly suspend use for 48 hours - there are easy excuses to do this without calling the vaccine a killer - as they in effect inferred that it was by pre empting the results.

On BBC news at lunchtime and I expect later they had some nurses on due to have it this week who got it cancelled in badly hit Germany pending the review.

One of them has already changed her mind by the sound of it on the basis that it is now a tainted product whether vindicated or not.

The handling of this has been like a sketch out of Spitting Image but not funny as it very sadly will kill people needlessly.
 
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mancity1 said:
No worries jimharri and again appreciated.

I don't often read all the posts and wasn't even aware of the political sub forum until you pointed it out to me.

I certainly have no issue with that at all in fact having this sub forum is a good idea FWMOIW if it doesn't compromise the bandwidth of any other forums.
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Got to ask, FWMOIW? Never seen that before!
 
Bit of a rise in cases again to 6303.

But new record 1, 606, 298 pillar 1 & 2 tests

Up 305, 000 since yesterday to find a few hundred extra cases.
 
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