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kaz7 said:
When i was at school we had numerous sports and pe lessons , swimming pool and we had home economics classes , i dont know why all that lot stopped , i do remember the schools fields being sold to grammer schools , that was the beginning of the end i suppose
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I'm 31 and I don't recall even having economics classes

Never got taught about NI, how to apply for a mortgage and how to manage money basically ( up for debate if that is the schools responsibility)

I do believe Schools should have a 1 or 2 hour lesson a week on what to eat, the benefits of eating healthy, even being taught nice and cheap healthy meals. Even mental health classes should be priority in this day and age with social media causing havoc.

I don't have any kids so I don't know if any of the above is taught?

Could you imagine in 20 / 30 years time how much strain would be reduced on the NHS if kids starting learning how to look after themselves properly?
 
bluetonium said:
Just incredible. I'm shocked, when I already thought I'd seen the depths of human stupidity in this pandemic. Bursting in to a covid ward to seemingly try and break out their elderly relative because they don't believe covid is real?

There are hopefully only very few individuals who can intentionally put their entire species at risk, but somehow there's a whole room of them there. Good bet none of them have had a covid test either recently, risking the health of the health professionals they encounter and their families, on their immoral crusade around the place. If a doctor ever tells you to leave because you are risking the lives of others, you bloody well do it. Even if you think covid is a joke, the earth is flat and Elvis lives on the moon.

As if the stresses of being a doctor or nurse were not enough... I really don't know how that guy kept his cool and to his oath.
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I'm not sure what they were trying to prove there. If the bloke in the bed wants to leave the hospital, as it sounds like he does from what I can hear in the chaos, surely he can sign a self release form and go. No hospital can treat you against your will although they can advise it is against your best interests.
 
JamesMCFC said:
I'm 31 and I don't recall even having economics classes

Never got taught about NI, how to apply for a mortgage and how to manage money basically ( up for debate if that is the schools responsibility)

I do believe Schools should have a 1 or 2 hour lesson a week on what to eat, the benefits of eating healthy, even being taught nice and cheap healthy meals. Even mental health classes should be priority in this day and age with social media causing havoc.

I don't have any kids so I don't know if any of the above is taught?

Could you imagine in 20 / 30 years time how much strain would be reduced on the NHS if kids starting learning how to look after themselves properly?
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I totally agree with you , maybe this is the reset we all need as a society , schools in my time , i am 60 , was much more hands on , i made a mean pineapple upside down cake and shortbread !
 
England hospital data - over past 24 hours


Generally down - but up in the North West. Painting the same picture the cases do.


Patients 32, 337 - down 601 in past day,

Ventilators 3634 - down 60 in past day.

Regionally

East

Down 120 to 3924 with 372 on ventilators (down 6)

London

Down 229 to 6785 with 1148 on ventilators (down 52)


Midlands

Down 165 to 6165 with 672 on ventilators (up 8)


NE & Yorkshire

Down 50 to 3841 with 336 on ventilators (same as yesterday)


North West

Up 224 to 4346 - new all time record - with 388 - on ventilators (up 9)


South East

Down197 to 5040 with 495 on ventilators (down 27(


South West

Up 36 to 2336 with 213 on ventilators (down 2)



The North West clearly going in the wrong direction at the moment
 
In the most recent episode of Amanpour and Company, it's been revealed that monitoring of lung function with inexpensive ($30 US or so) pulse oximeters dramatically increases life expectancy.

Absent such monitoring, patients admitted to hospital with severe pneumonia in the USA had approximately a 30% morbidity rate.

With early pulse oximeter monitoring, patients had a 1% morbidity rate.
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The key difference is that with pulse oximeter monitoring, patients with dangerous symptoms were able to detect problems much earlier and go to hospital for treatment (steroids, and various drugs). Typically, such a patient was able to leave hospital after 5 or so days all the while in a non-emergency bed.
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Whereas a patient without pulse oximeter monitoring is typically admitted to hospital at a much later state of disease progression.

The problem is that you feel OK whereas you are not - the pulse oximeter detects lung disfunction very early even though you might be feeling well.
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Bottom line - if you are diagnosed with COVID-19 and are sent home to isolate/recuperate with instructions to go to hospital if you feel worse - you absolutely should use a pulse oximeter. If the oximeter reveals a drop in lung function - even if you are feeling fine - go immediately to hospital. Your outcome - a short hospital stay - versus a long stay and huge hospital bills or even death - is far better if onset pneumonia is caught early on and immediately addressed - again, morbidity is 1% for early detection of COVID-induced pneumonia versus 30% for later diagnosis.
 
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