Armed forces initiations

Might be wrong but i believe Rape has to be penetration with a penis?

I suspect it will sexual penetration with a foreign object that is the offence.

More knowledgeable minds will confirm.
Looking at the Stuart Lubbock related arrest, the bloke has been charged with sexual assault and murder, so I suppose (apart from murder), that will be the charge.
 
What’s “do the top shelf”?
Something to do with drinking a lot of different spirits? Or something else?
Top shelf is all the spirits together in a pint pot and down in one. I might add that at the time I witnessed it, I was in a bar In Fallingbostel, The Hackett Club, and spirits were pennies a shot, so the top shelf was all doubles. Fortunately never did it myself.
 
I thought after the deep cut barracks scandal this kind of behaviour had been eradicated.
A new recruit has been stripped naked and had a gun barrel shoved up his backside in an raf barracks. It was filmed, with onlookers (including his co) laughing about it.

the bullying tells you all you need to know about the fear and insecurity of those bullying - pathetic really
 
Lad I knew had an initiation which consisted of a yard of ale and a naked run round the rugby pitch. Being pissed and slightly gullible he stripped off and handed his clothes to one of the lads to look after. Fair play, full pelt round the pitch, but he never got his clothes back.

Long walk home...
 
Top shelf is all the spirits together in a pint pot and down in one. I might add that at the time I witnessed it, I was in a bar In Fallingbostel, The Hackett Club, and spirits were pennies a shot, so the top shelf was all doubles. Fortunately never did it myself.
Surely a pint of doubles is the same as a pint of single shots. Maybe it just sounds more. Either way, its not for me.
 
I thought after the deep cut barracks scandal this kind of behaviour had been eradicated.
A new recruit has been stripped naked and had a gun barrel shoved up his backside in an raf barracks. It was filmed, with onlookers (including his co) laughing about it.
I lived at Deepcut twice as a kid....my Dad was in the Army. None of those stories/accusations surprise me
 
I spent 22 years in the RAF... saw some “initiations” but all light hearted and what I would class as banter e.g. being sent to the medical centre for fallopian tubing or to stores for a long weight (wait) ... I even did 3 years with the RAF Regiment at Honington but 1. I was a Sergeant by then and 2. I was working with Regiment guys who operated Rapier missile systems so not your typical “grunt”
 
I did see (and let's be honest here, was involved in) some 'initiation ceremonies' in the Forces but never anything like this.

It's an absolute disgrace and all involved should be kicked out of the RAF particularly any SNCO's who were involved.
 
I did see (and let's be honest here, was involved in) some 'initiation ceremonies' in the Forces but never anything like this.

It's an absolute disgrace and all involved should be kicked out of the RAF particularly any SNCO's who were involved.

This isnt initiation,its a despicable crime and a shameful act by a pack of bullies.I hope each and everyone is found,disgraced and sent to prison for a long time.

More than anything,i hope the victim manages to find a way to deal with his ordeal.
 
Have a look if you want to see how seriously RAF top brass are taking this. I think there was a Statement in parliament too


He had to say something like that
He couldn't come out.& say there has always been a bit of bullying in the armed forces but these lads went a bit too far
It is beyond belief that this shit still happens & people up the " chain of command" either don't no about it or just "Do a Nelson"
 
Top shelf is all the spirits together in a pint pot and down in one. I might add that at the time I witnessed it, I was in a bar In Fallingbostel, The Hackett Club, and spirits were pennies a shot, so the top shelf was all doubles. Fortunately never did it myself.
Remember years ago a Royal Marine had to do that after completing training & he died from alcohol poisoning
 
Not RAF or quite as related by my university’s football teams (men’s and women’s) managed to land themselves in deep shit (literally) when one of the initiations was to piss all over one of the women, and someone curled one out on her.

Fucking oddballs.
 
I'll reopen the thread in a while. Any reoccurrence of these so called "jokes" may result in warnings/threadbans.

Well said Jim, some of the so called jokes and making light of it was quite disturbing to say the least. It's that sort of mindset that means this shit carries on and on. Anyone who has done any sort of service will have witnessed or been subjected to some not pleasant stuff all dressed up as banter, part of being accepted, initiation ceremony, they can call it what they want. It is sadistic bullying and they know the victim of it daren't say anything as they will be ostracized or worse. I never saw anything this bad thankfully but a blind eye was turned to some stuff that crossed the line from a supposed bit of "fun."
 

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