The Detectives: Fighting Organised Crime

worsleyweb said:
On a separate note could any of those people on that programme last night be rehabilitated or are they too far gone?
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I doubt they'd want to.

They live by different codes,most dont have any conscience or the merest perception/care of how their actions affect others.They are the most selfish of cunts who want everything without the responsibility of finding a proper job,abiding by the laws of the land,and contributing towards society.
 
paulchapo said:
It's like people raging at service workers it's bullying and intimidation with minimal risk. The criminals know now everywhere has a camera and the days when if you got nicked and kicked off you unfortunately "Fell down some stairs" are long gone. Like bouncers of yesteryear if you decided to have a pop you got a hiding.
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Brownley road/ hall lane no cameras back then,once the lights went off in your cell you covered up best you could because you knew what was coming
 
nellyonthewing said:
Agreed when you watch that and see the vermin in our City its worrying.
Back in 2010 I went playing golf in the Lakes and was on the exact spot where a few days later taxi driver Derrick Bird shot dead one of his 12 random victims.
A couple of years ago I went to the Suntrust Bank in Sebring, Florida and a week later some whacko shot dead 5 women in the bank for no reason at all.
Life is dangerous and we are merely like bugs some of us get twatted with a rolled up newspaper.
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Do us a favour and let us know when you next pack your suitcase?
 
ted the grass said:
You need to get out more mate...Mcr always had its violent crim elements...one big galoot throws his weight around in front of a few bored looking coppers. knowing full well that cameras are on and you get a touch of the vapours??...who do you think can afford yer city centre glass penthouses?...at least 30% of all big town developments are financed through drug money...add in almost all the Vape shops. nail bars and tanning salons.

PS..Prestwich Blue may have peaked. night be the time to call him out.
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I have got out plenty mate -spend at least 350 days a year in this City Centre and managed to not be punched in all my 45 years and hope it stays that way! Your point re the big town developments - certainly in Manchester is wrong in my opinion.

It certainly disturbed me that people can inflict such suffering on pain on fellow human beings and i hope it always will.

All developments at scale have to have KYC money sourcing checks and banks and pension funds tend not to let Paris Blacktock and his ilk build 50 storey buildings.

I am waiting 5 more years for Colin - will take him then.
 
FantasyIreland said:
I doubt they'd want to.

They live by different codes,most dont have any conscience or the merest perception/care of how their actions affect others.They are the most selfish of cunts who want everything without the responsibility of finding a proper job,abiding by the laws of the land,and contributing towards society.
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I guess this Paris guy will serve 5 years or so. Be out before age 30 - what odds he can get a job and be decent. Very very low i would imagine. Probably trying to bully prison officers as we speak.
 
nellyonthewing said:
Agreed when you watch that and see the vermin in our City its worrying.
Back in 2010 I went playing golf in the Lakes and was on the exact spot where a few days later taxi driver Derrick Bird shot dead one of his 12 random victims.
A couple of years ago I went to the Suntrust Bank in Sebring, Florida and a week later some whacko shot dead 5 women in the bank for no reason at all.
Life is dangerous and we are merely like bugs some of us get twatted with a rolled up newspaper.
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Yes I agree but I have zero faith in our police anymore yet Trafford Council want me to pay an extra 5% every year to them.
They are not fit for purpose.
 
worsleyweb said:
I guess this Paris guy will serve 5 years or so. Be out before age 30 - what odds he can get a job and be decent. Very very low i would imagine. Probably trying to bully prison officers as we speak.
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He has no interest in getting a proper job or being decent,far too much of a selfish/irresponsible/lazy **** for that.

Hopefully he wont see 30.
 
BLUEMATT23 said:
Yes I agree but I have zero faith in our police anymore yet Trafford Council want me to pay an extra 5% every year to them.
They are not fit for purpose.
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Fucking hell matt! Is there anyone or anything you dont think is shit?
 
worsleyweb said:
I have got out plenty mate - managed to not be punched in all my 45 years and hope it stays that way! Your point re the big town developments - certainly in Manchester is wrong in my opinion.

All developments at scale have to have KYC money sourcing checks and banks and pension funds tend not to let Paris Blacktock and his ilk build 50 storey buildings.

I am waiting 5 more years for Colin - will take him then.
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I have some knowledge of how the sausage is made fella...and major developments are certainly tainted with drug money....big finance...not the sort of petty cash morons like Paris Bostick flashes at strippers. Cash is king in facilitating planning ...even selecting contractors . design teams and security.

One Mcr developer in particular rose to prominence in the 90s...
 
Indaparkside said:
Brownley road/ hall lane no cameras back then,once the lights went off in your cell you covered up best you could because you knew what was coming
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There used to be a big local beat Bobby back then, shit Fraser they called him. If you cheeked him and he caught you he'd give you a right whack.
 
ted the grass said:
I have some knowledge of how the sausage is made fella...and major developments are certainly tainted with drug money....big finance...not the sort of petty cash morons like Paris Bostick flashes at strippers. Cash is king in facilitating planning ...even selecting contractors . design teams and security.

One Mcr developer in particular rose to prominence in the 90s...
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Artizan? Used to work for them. No drug money on any of mine. When it comes to Liverpool i would agree with yoru every word.
 
paulchapo said:
There used to be a big local beat Bobby back then, shit Fraser they called him. If you cheeked him and he caught you he'd give you a right whack.
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I know an incident where a copper was having it one on one with a local lad on wythenshawe hospital car park one night, coat off fisticuffs no arrests just a punch up his mate was sat in the Black Maria apparently it was over an incident outside the blackboy they went over where it was dark to sort it out.
 
worsleyweb said:
Disturbed me last night this programme!

Lived here all my life in this great City and a few things crossed my mind. One is how just beneath the surface it is actually quite a rough tough place!

i used to play football with one of the Buller's, dealt with Paul Massey a lot when placing security packages on site dealt with David Totton of Brass Handles shooting notoriety a few times and i am no shrinking violet and have always felt safe here but villainy and drugs are clearly rife.

However Paris Blackstock was quite intimidating last night but nothing in all my 45 years has shocked me to the core as the time Prestwich Blue and i nearly came to blows. Colin Prestwich Blue is to my mind the Joe Pesci of this City and i am just glad i backed down all those years ago!

On a separate note could any of those people on that programme last night be rehabilitated or are they too far gone?
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@worsleyweb Did you know about Masseys criminality when you were giving him the security contracts? If so aren't you making the problem worse by allowing a gangster to profit from his noteriety? I assume as soon as his signs went up at a place no one would rob it.
I ask because I did some work for a firm that used a well know Middleton family for so called security. I got it stopped for that reason. The story was one night all their windows went in, the next day they got a visit offering security and they never had another window broken again!!!
 
worsleyweb said:
Disturbed me last night this programme!

Lived here all my life in this great City and a few things crossed my mind. One is how just beneath the surface it is actually quite a rough tough place!

i used to play football with one of the Buller's, dealt with Paul Massey a lot when placing security packages on site dealt with David Totton of Brass Handles shooting notoriety a few times and i am no shrinking violet and have always felt safe here but villainy and drugs are clearly rife.

However Paris Blackstock was quite intimidating last night but nothing in all my 45 years has shocked me to the core as the time Prestwich Blue and i nearly came to blows. Colin Prestwich Blue is to my mind the Joe Pesci of this City and i am just glad i backed down all those years ago!

On a separate note could any of those people on that programme last night be rehabilitated or are they too far gone?
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It’s possible, though I’m not sure if Berkeley or Paris could. I was volunteering for an offender rehab charity with a lad whose brother had run a violent Fallowfield gang (that this lad had been part of). Both brothers were discouraging youngsters from going down the same path.
 
Blue Mist said:
@worsleyweb Did you know about Masseys criminality when you were giving him the security contracts? If so aren't you making the problem worse by allowing a gangster to profit from his noteriety? I assume as soon as his signs went up at a place no one would rob it.
I ask because I did some work for a firm that used a well know Middleton family for so called security. I got it stopped for that reason. The story was one night all their windows went in, the next day they got a visit offering security and they never had another window broken again!!!
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a well know Middleton family...

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Indaparkside said:
I know an incident where a copper was having it one on one with a local lad on wythenshawe hospital car park one night, coat off fisticuffs no arrests just a punch up his mate was sat in the Black Maria apparently it was over an incident outside the blackboy they went over where it was dark to sort it out.
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A lot of that went on back then. I think the Black Boy is still open ( When restrictions allow) Johnny Ash was running it I think.
 
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