The Detectives: Fighting Organised Crime

stonerblue said:
Never drink in a pub with a flat roof.
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It was an odd looking pub kind of stuck out like a sore thumb. If you were walking past and someone said, " Shall we have a pint in here?" all your bodies survival instincts would be screaming "No!!!"

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Not sure how but i found myself in Blackley after a game one sunday evening.
Spotted a boozer with a big sign on it advertising Curry goat. Gagging for another pint and being hank marvin i went in. Empty in one bar, gang of scrotes in the other. Ordered a pint and sat down in the empty bar. After a stream of friendly locals had asked what i was doing in there or if i was 'looking for business' i thought i better get my food and fuck off. Asked the lovely landlady for a taxi number only to be informed taxis won't pick anyone up from there.
I set off walking, clueless as to where i was, and a car pulled up and told me to get in. The landlady had sent her son to pick me up before her 'regulars' got hold of me.
Pebble-dashed, flat roof Holts' boozer (i think).
 
LongsightM13 said:
The Welcome, next to the site of the old BBC/Top of the Pops studios
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Yeah, cheers LM13 that was it. Be glad to get back to a game and have a beer, even if it is the overpriced stuff on the concourse.
Also apologies to the owner of this thread for posting my off topic ramblings.
 
The Northern Baptist said:
Id rather take my chances in Manchester. Less chance of getting wiped out in a mass shooting like those poor bastards in Colorado. Or getting the phone call that someone has gone into my daughter’s school and shot her.
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Cos of course, nothing like that would happen here, or in a small town like Dunblain would it.
 
stonerblue said:
nailed it.
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I know mate, its shameful.

When the govt controlled the supply of heroin it was in their and our interest to limit demand by offering support to come off the drug.
When that control was passed to criminals it is in their interest to create more demand, hence the rise of the user-dealer. Mr big supplies him with heroin (or coke or ecstasy or whatever drug you like) and in order to pay for it he has to sell some so he goes actively recruiting customers. In order for THEM to pay for it they have to either create yet more customers or commit crime. Typically robbery or burglary. And the cycle continues to grow. Yet more users, yet more often violent crime.
Meanwhile violent gangs get ever more violent in order to scare people away from cooperating with the police.
A video i once watched summed it up when an ex copper said If you lock up a burglar , burglary goes down in his catchment area. If you lock up a drug dealer the demand for drugs does not contract one iota, it just creates a vacancy for another, usually more violent, dealer to take his place.

In 50 years we have gone from being a country with hardly any problematic drug users or regular violent crime to a country with drug users in every postcode, almost every street, and an ever escalating cycle of more and more extreme violence on our streets and town centres.

All because the Americans wanted to criminalise drugs in order to still be able to control the black, brown, and yellow man after the civil rights movement grew exponentially and made every day racism harder to get away with.
 
its grim up north said:
Cos of course, nothing like that would happen here, or in a small town like Dunblain would it.
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you can find the list of school shootings in America pre-2000 here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

Then there’s another list for shootings that took place post-2000 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

The two U.K. schools shootings (1850 and 1996) can be found here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:School_shootings_in_the_United_Kingdom
 
As noted through this thread it’s usually well known families that have been at it for years & years. One or two families bring the reputations of estates down with them.

Unless you’re glued to the local media life tends to go on better without the knowledge of this stuff generally.
Not sure it’s any worse than in the past (certainly not at the height of ‘gunchester’)?

I remember a mate coming to see me about 25 years ago in Manchester and feared it’s reputation a little (it did have a reputation at one stage, mainly media driven).
I was a bit bemused tbf (I’ve never had any trouble/been mugged myself).
About two weeks later back in his small town in Notts he randomly got set upon by two blokes walking home...he was really badly beaten up.
 
LongsightM13 said:
Neither did ‘Total football’ and Mr Dixon, the John Beck/Dave Bassett of Manchester schoolboy football in the 80s
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Blast from the past that. Remember that massive twat Mr Loftus, and the very gorgeous Miss Curley? Dixon was definitely knobbing her. As an aside, didn’t Dixon play for or have associations with Crewe Alexander?
 
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