Coronavirus (2021) thread

[roubaixtuesday]

It's not clear that taking the vaccine increases the risk of this rare side effect more than not taking it either.

I think that is true of blood clots in general, but not of this specific rare condition, which it does now seem is clearly correlated to the AZ vaccine.

 

[Healdplace]

HOSPITAL DATA

Back to normal daily reports - outside of weekends - in future.

The news is okay . Another fall over 100 patients in day and UK has only 18 above 3000 patients in hospital with Covid down from nearly 40,000 in January. Ventilators sub 400 in England and 500 in UK. With dates when numbers were lower for both slipping back regularly in early October. South West not now just sub 100 patients but single figures on ventilators.





UK total:


Patients down to 3018 - it was 39, 248 at the peak on 18 Jan - (fall of 36, 230 in 79 days) :- lowest since 3 October

Ventilators down to 440 it was 4077 at the peak on 24 Jan - (fall of 3637 in 73 days) : lowest since 8 October


England only:-


ADMISSIONS:-

188 Covid admissions (5 April) following 156, 179, 178, 180, 225, 283, 277 in the week before.



PATIENTS:-

Patients down today by 102 to 2486 v 3084 last week :- lowest since 4 October.

Peak was 34, 336 on 18 Jan (fall 31, 850 in 79 days)

Ventilators: down 13 to 393 v 501 last week :- lowest since 9 October

Peak was 3736 on 24 Jan (fall 3343 in 73 days)



Regions:



Patient // Ventilators // change in past 5 days to today and v last week



East UP 2 to 200 v 237 // down 5 to 28 v 46

London down 24 to 577 v 689 // down 5 to 121 v 153

Midlands down 27 to 502 v 631 // down 2 to 79 v 111

NE & Yorks down 22 to 454 v 514 // down 2 to 70 v 79

North West down 24 to 457 v 591 // UP 2 to 61 v 69

South East UP 2 to 210 v 309 // UP 2 to 27 v 31

South West down 9 to 86 v 113 // down 3 to 7 v 12`

 

[ayrshire_blue]

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

4000 plus deaths in Brazil and the guy in charge still won’t lock down, very dangerous stuff happening there.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Full details on the risk in the Telegraph now....

The press conference nobody wanted to give – what we learnt from the blood clot briefing

Medicines regulator forced to concede that the AstraZeneca Covid jab is possibly causing a rare but deadly brain condition

www.telegraph.co.uk

The age graphs are the most important (attached). Basically those below 30 with a low exposure risk are better off taking a different jab. Foe everyone else the maths are still in favour...

 

[west didsblue]

Just posting the risk.

The numbers for CVST in women under 30s probably exceed deaths from the the pill. However if the MHRA were in charge of driving it would be banned tomorrow.

Chance of CVST =
79/20,000,000 = 0.0000395 = 0.00395%

Chance of CVST death =
19/20,000,000 = 0.00000095 = 0.000095%

Chance of a clot while on the pill
= 7.5/100,000 = 0.000075 = 0.0075
Of which around 1% will die
= 0.00000075 = 0.000075%

Chance of clot for woman under 40 not on the pill.
= 1/10k = 0.00001
Of which dying from a clot under 40 not on the pill is again 1% = 0.0000001 = 0.00001%

Raw chance of dying in a car crash this year =
1/20,000 = 0.00005 = 0.005%

On the other hand, for a 25 year old, the chance of Covid killing you is about 1 in 10,000 and the chance of catching it with current rates of 3000 a day is about 1 in 1,000 over a month so the overall chance of dying of Covid over a month is 1 in 10,000,000. On that basis it makes perfect sense to hang on a bit for the other vaccine for that age group. For the older age groups where Covid is much more likely to kill you, it makes perfect sense not to wait and to take the AZ vaccine if offered.

Edit: Just seen your post above. I think we’re saying pretty much the same thing.

 

[BlueHammer85]

4000 plus deaths in Brazil and the guy in charge still won’t lock down, very dangerous stuff happening there.

and still you get morons saying we shouldn’t have locked down. Could you imagine the toll. Brazil is the reality.

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

and still you get morons saying we shouldn’t have locked down. Could you imagine the toll. Brazil is the reality.

They are looking at a death toll near 600,000 by July. People there are being reinfected with new variants, Someone needs to get a grip on the situation as it could end up effecting the rest of the planet.

 

[BlueHammer85]

They are looking at a death toll near 600,000 by July. People there are being reinfected with new variants, Someone needs to get a grip on the situation as it could end up effecting the rest of the planet.

He is a complete loon -

The far-right populist made the inflammatory declaration on Thursday, as Brazil’s already dire Covid situation deteriorated and its average daily death toll rose above that of the United States.

“Stop all this fussing and whining. How long are you going to keep on crying?” Bolsonaro asked supporters in the midwestern state of Goiás, where nearly 9,000 people have died.

 

[unicorn]

I think that is true of blood clots in general, but not of this specific rare condition, which it does now seem is clearly correlated to the AZ vaccine.

Thanks. I confess that a clear correlation to AZ isn't what I understood from the press conference, but BBC says "The regulator said this was not proof the jab had caused the clots. But it said the link was getting firmer."