United thread 2020/21

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Feck me he lives in Bredbury not far from me I've heard.
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I'm not sure that's him / her / it.

No distinguishing features or clothing to go off.
 
United were nothing before Matt Busby! Busby went to United in 1945, 76 years ago; but the league had been going for 57 years and the FA Cup for 74 years before that, and as you say some clubs were formed 80+ years before that. So for half of football history (plus the 1970s) United have been a non-entity of a club. How the fuck can they be considered the Grandfathers of English football?

As Newton Heath they were getting crowds of 400 at Bank Street and went bust. As Manchester United they won their first ever trophies with City’s players, then went 37 years without winning anything. They were getting average attendances of 11,000, individual attendances of 4,000, couldn’t afford to buy their own kits so used old City kits (Rags), and nearly went bust in the 1930s.

The grandfathers of English football are:
Aston Villa - 6 league titles and 6 FA Cups by 1920.
Sunderland - 6 league titles and an FA Cup by 1936.
Everton - 5 league titles and 2 FA Cups by 1939.
Newcastle - 4 league titles and 3 FA Cups by 1932.
Sheffield Wednesday - 4 league titles and 3 FA Cups by 1935.
Blackburn Rovers - 2 league titles and 6 FA Cups by 1928.
Preston North End - 2 league titles and 2 FA Cups by 1938, first ever Double Winners (1888-89) in a season they went unbeaten in the league (first ever Invincibles) and didn’t concede a goal in the FA Cup.

In the decade United were almost going bust, other clubs were huge in comparison:
Arsenal were winning 5 league titles and 2 FA cups.
Everton were winning 3 league titles and an FA Cup.
City were winning the league title, the FA Cup, playing the first ever “European” fixture (against a German league XI in Germany), were getting regular 60-70,000 attendances as well as the record breaking 84,569 attendance in 1934.
West Brom were getting 64,000+ crowds.
Birmingham were getting 66,000+ crowds.
Huddersfield (after winning 3 consecutive league titles the previous decade) were getting 67,000+ crowds.
Sheffield United were getting 68,000+ crowds.
Newcastle were getting 68,000+ crowds.
Bolton were getting 69,000+ crowds.
Sheffield Wednesday were getting 72,000+ crowds (against City) and winning trophies.
Sunderland were getting 72,000+ crowds and winning trophies.
Charlton were challenging [City] for the league title and getting 75,000+ crowds.
Chelsea were getting 82,000+ crowds.

I’ve named 16 clubs there, and not exhausted the list, who have more legitimacy of calling themselves bigger clubs than United in the first half of football history.

Man United “the Grandfathers of English football”, my arse!
excellent post. Shame these facts will never be mentioned on the mainstream media.
 
There seems to be a divide in the views I expressed between some of us blues.
Last thing we need though is confrontation, or in house fighting between ourselves.

I was merely pointing out that we wouldn’t like to have owners like some of these other clubs, this potentially could happen to us 1 day if things ain’t changed. This is about saving football , saving clubs.

Clubs shouldn’t be treated as businesses that shareholders take dividends, revenue from clubs should go back into the clubs, the clubs belong to the fans.

We need protect football so the game as we love it is still around when our great great grandchildren grow up they can experience the love of football as we know it, not the corrupt cash injections and withdrawals proceeded by some of these owners which unbalance the game.

Club stature and success should be built naturally and not be effected negatively / positively by third parties.

I sensed a couple of you disagreed with my comments and for some beknown reason posted pics of a united banner showing last time we won league and all I’m going say is ....... treat those how you would like to be treated and always remember 2 wrongs do not make a right.
What absolute horse spunk, try telling that to fans of Bury, Wigan, Coventry Portsmouth & several other clubs who have either gone to the wall or have flirted very close.

Utd being built naturally your having a laugh. The rags were a cup team so deep in the shit that Knighton tried to buy the club in the mid 80s.

Where was this outcry when sky and 5 clubs destroyed English football and the same when they first launched the cash cow that was champions league & then expanded it so the same 4 English teams finished in the top 4 year after year being able to spend more on wages & transfer fees.

I would love it if the Glaziers stayed for ever
 
What absolute horse spunk, try telling that to fans of Bury, Wigan, Coventry Portsmouth & several other clubs who have either gone to the wall or have flirted very close.

Utd being built naturally your having a laugh. The rags were a cup team so deep in the shit that Knighton tried to buy the club in the mid 80s.

Where was this outcry when sky and 5 clubs destroyed English football and the same when they first launched the cash cow that was champions league & then expanded it so the same 4 English teams finished in the top 4 year after year being able to spend more on wages & transfer fees.

I would love it if the Glaziers stayed for ever
At least they could repair any windows that were smashed yesterday :- )
 
There seems to be a divide in the views I expressed between some of us blues.
Last thing we need though is confrontation, or in house fighting between ourselves.

I was merely pointing out that we wouldn’t like to have owners like some of these other clubs, this potentially could happen to us 1 day if things ain’t changed. This is about saving football , saving clubs.

Clubs shouldn’t be treated as businesses that shareholders take dividends, revenue from clubs should go back into the clubs, the clubs belong to the fans.

We need protect football so the game as we love it is still around when our great great grandchildren grow up they can experience the love of football as we know it, not the corrupt cash injections and withdrawals proceeded by some of these owners which unbalance the game.

Club stature and success should be built naturally and not be effected negatively / positively by third parties.

I sensed a couple of you disagreed with my comments and for some beknown reason posted pics of a united banner showing last time we won league and all I’m going say is ....... treat those how you would like to be treated and always remember 2 wrongs do not make a right.
I keep reading his posts in the style of Sir Stevo Timothy for some reason
 
There seems to be a divide in the views I expressed between some of us blues.
Last thing we need though is confrontation, or in house fighting between ourselves.

I was merely pointing out that we wouldn’t like to have owners like some of these other clubs, this potentially could happen to us 1 day if things ain’t changed. This is about saving football , saving clubs.

Clubs shouldn’t be treated as businesses that shareholders take dividends, revenue from clubs should go back into the clubs, the clubs belong to the fans.

We need protect football so the game as we love it is still around when our great great grandchildren grow up they can experience the love of football as we know it, not the corrupt cash injections and withdrawals proceeded by some of these owners which unbalance the game.

Club stature and success should be built naturally and not be effected negatively / positively by third parties.

I sensed a couple of you disagreed with my comments and for some beknown reason posted pics of a united banner showing last time we won league and all I’m going say is ....... treat those how you would like to be treated and always remember 2 wrongs do not make a right.
Fuck off you stupid ****
 
Apart from the PL rules that say clubs can be held responsible for their fans' behaviour and that clubs have to ensure safe access to the stadium for players, officials and broadcasters.
It is normally the FA that dishes out fines for spectator behaviour, however these weren't spectators.

The PL deal with failure to play a league match if it is the clubs fault.

I think it is the HASAW etc Act 1974 which kicked in, and they complied with it resulting in the game being called off.
 
There seems to be a divide in the views I expressed between some of us blues.
Last thing we need though is confrontation, or in house fighting between ourselves.
Firstly the only divide is between “us blues” and you.
Secondly thank you for bringing us together, together we stand laughing at you, you rag ****.
I’m all for rival fans coming on here and expressing their opinions, but not while pretending to be one of us.
You joined a “City Forum” and you thought it’d be a good idea for your first post to be on the scum sub forum, defending them?
Hahaha do one rag boy.
 
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