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Had my 2nd jab yesterday. Aside from a sore arm, till lunchtime today, and feeling a bit stuffed up, much better than the first one in terms of side effects.
My daughter says it sort of proves I had Covid-19 during the first wave. No shit says I.
I had my 2nd AZ jab yesterday at the Etihad. Other than a sore arm, I’ve been ok today. I felt like I had a bad hangover the day after the first jab. I’m not aware that I have had COVID. Fingers crossed, we are seeing the tail end of this in the UK.
 
Wife happens to ring local dr surgery asked if I could have the jab (29 so not my turn yet) said they had some left over Pfizer slots for Friday. Not gonna lie pretty nervous as suffer from pretty bad anxiety issues but I know I need to get this done! Any words from other members who have had the jab appreciated! Thanks

Having Pfizer on Friday too. My mum, who is in her mid-80s, had both hers a while ago and nothing except a bit of soreness in her arm for a couple of days. Nothing to worry about really.
 
Wife happens to ring local dr surgery asked if I could have the jab (29 so not my turn yet) said they had some left over Pfizer slots for Friday. Not gonna lie pretty nervous as suffer from pretty bad anxiety issues but I know I need to get this done! Any words from other members who have had the jab appreciated! Thanks
88 year old mum has had two pfizer jabs with no ill effects at all, so I understand your concerns but really you should be fine. (on a side note how can you follow city if you have anxiety issues?)
 
Admissions are not rising in any obvious way. What is that Ryan chap suggesting? Who is he?


They looked like they might be last week and I commented on it here and said we needed to watch what happened this weekend.

We did and the numbers stayed below 100.

Here are the England Covid admissions up to 2 days ago.

98 - 126 - 92 - 129 - 99 - 107 - 108 - 128 - 89 - 81 - 82 - 68 - 92 - 98 - 76 - 96 - 88 - 77 - 80

Not sure what is alarming about those numbers or suggesting they are going up.

Until 2 or 3 weeks ago they had never gone below 100 in months and had been over 200 not that long ago and in four figures in January. Now they have been under 100 for multiple successive days.
 
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Had my 2nd jab yesterday. Aside from a sore arm, till lunchtime today, and feeling a bit stuffed up, much better than the first one in terms of side effects.
My daughter says it sort of proves I had Covid-19 during the first wave. No shit says I.
Not doubting her or you but why does it prove you had covid ?
 
I despair at some of these questions every time. You just knew this whole hugging thing would bring out the scotch egg morons again.
Yep. Idiots don’t realise that there was never a ban on hugging in the first place.
 
Regional Cases Today



Cases show up or down on yesterday and the v number is versus 7 days ago.



SOUTH

East UP 95 to 199 v 154

London UP 35 to 273 v 193

South East UP 222 to 404 v 145 - One of the largest daily and week to week rises in weeks. South East now second highest region.

South West down 25 to 62 v 59 - Large fall here in total contrast to SE. Lowest sore today.


Big contrast in numbers in SE and SW today!




MIDLANDS

East UP 40 to 190 v 181

West UP 57 to 166 v 137



NORTH

North East down 6 to 77 v 63


Yorkshire UP 75 to 319 v 250 (Week to week falls continue and now behind the North West and the South East by a comfortable margin. Not having a Bolton as yet helps.




NORTH WEST UP 118 to 410 v 224.

Up very big and even more week to week and now the highest numbers in the country by far. Bolton the main reason, of course as it had nearly a quarter of these cases on its own.



GREATER MANCHESTER

Up 18 day to day - well under the 118 NW rise in the day - and up UP 64 week to week - biggest GM rise in month and taking it to 204. Despite the input from Bolton this rise is less than expected as par given the NW rise of 186 week to week. So other parts of NW are struggling too (Chorley and East Lancashire).
 
Admissions are not rising in any obvious way. What is that Ryan chap suggesting? Who is he?


They looked like they might be last week and I commented on it here and said we needed to watch what happened this weekend.

We did and the numbers stayed below 100.

Here are the England Covid admissions up to 2 days ago.

98 - 126 - 92 - 129 - 99 - 107 - 108 - 128 - 89 - 81 - 82 - 68 - 92 - 98 - 76 - 96 - 88 - 77 - 80

Not sure what is alarming about those numbers or suggesting they are going up.

Until 2 or 3 weeks ago they had never gone below 100 in months and had been over 200 not that long ago and in four figures in January. Now they have been under 100 for multiple successive days.

Some muppet with 6k followers with no qualifications to post his scaremongering shite. Why even quote him god only knows.
 
Registered for vaccination last tuesday (first day that registration was open to my age; 58). Just waiting to get the text back with a date for the first vaccine. Apparently, it takes about 2-3 weeks for notification of a date.
 
Some muppet with 6k followers with no qualifications to post his scaremongering shite. Why even quote him god only knows.
In that very same thread he goes on to state similar shaped graphs from similar opening up scenarios from Israel immediately preceding huge falls, as well as taking into account bank holiday effects.

The only muppets are those that pick and choose what they want to share to support their own viewpoints.
 
HOSPITAL DATA

Summary:



The weekend was very mixed in England with some places in the south such as London going up and Yorkshire and the North West falling. Resulting in a fall of 29 across the weekend. The NW was the only region to fall in both patients and ventilators - which in England overall fell by 10.

The position was mixed in the other nations too - though at low numbers they are at (all around South East England type numbers) this is of small impact. Under 200 in hospital and 12 ventilated in the three home nations added together.

So little change but mostly in the right direction.

10 September last time fewer were on ventilators in NW and 6 September last time fewer patients. A little ahead of the UK average time table slipping backwards into last Summer.


UK total:

NB NUMBERS TODAY COVER THE THREE DAY WEEKEND WITH THE UP/DOWN BUT V MEANS AS WAS LAST MONDAY



Patients down to 1127 - it was 39, 248 at the peak on 18 Jan - (fall of 38, 121 in 112 days) :- lowest since 16 September

Ventilators down to 147 it was 4077 at the peak on 24 Jan - (fall of 3930 in 106 days) : lowest since 18 September


England only:-


ADMISSIONS
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80 Covid admissions following 77, 88, 96, 76, 98, 92, 68 in the week before.

As you see daily Covid admission numbers in England under 100 now every day.




PATIENTS:-

Patients down by 29 to 944 v 1096 last week
:- lowest since 16 September

Peak was 34, 336 on 18 Jan (fall 33, 392 in 112 days)

Ventilators: Down 10 to 135 v 168 last week
:- lowest since 19 September

Peak was 3736 on 24 Jan (fall 3601 in 106 days)



Regions:


Patient // Ventilators // change in past day to today and v last week



East UP 2 to 72 v 89 // down 2 to 4 v 9

London UP 9 to 281 v 316 // down 3 to 59 v 70

Midlands UP 1 to 187 v 215 // down 6 to 21 v 27

NE & Yorks down 14 to 160 v 167// UP 3 to 23 v 23

North West down 14 to 163 v 181 // down 3 to 16 v 26

South East down 12 to 64 v 84 // Stays at 8 v 8

South West down 1 to 31 v 44 // UP 1 to 4 v 5
 
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In that very same thread he goes on to state similar shaped graphs from similar opening up scenarios from Israel immediately preceding huge falls, as well as taking into account bank holiday effects.

The only muppets are those that pick and choose what they want to share to support their own viewpoints.

My point exactly.
 
Some muppet with 6k followers with no qualifications to post his scaremongering shite. Why even quote him god only knows.

Some muppet who's provided excellent balance and research throughout the pandemic, if anything could be criticised for being overly positive at times. His followers include the highly respected John Burn-Murdoch of the Financial Times and a considerable amount of verified accounts of people from scientific backgrounds.

It always absolutely amazes me that people will lap up whatever positive news they see but anything that can be considered slightly negative (and that's what this is btw, a far cry from 'scaremongering') and everyone's automatically looking for reasons to completely dismiss it.

Perhaps instead, have a look through his previous tweets and the type of people he's engaged in conversation with over that platform, and if you still want to completely ignore it then that's up to you.
 
Not doubting her or you but why does it prove you had covid ?
Well I was very ill for a start with all the symptoms from the end of March last year. But didn't have a positive test. Also, the general medical opinion* is that those who had Covid have a much rougher time with the first jab than the 2nd, whereas those who haven't had it genrally have a rougher time with the second jab. There are exceptions of course but tgere you go.
* = My daughter is a medical registrar on the Covid wards but is a consultant from August and this is where the opinion comes from.
 
Greater Manchester Cases


204 cases today - up 18 on yesterday. From 410 North West cases. And so under 50%.

But up 64 from 140 last Monday. Biggest week to week rise in some time. NW rise wk to wk was 186. So - again - despite Bolton's travails massively impacting the 10 borough total - this was just a third not half of that NW score.

So well under par for GM. And but for Bolton the county would be doing very well indeed right now. Of course, the risk is it does not stay in Bolton now that we are moving about more.




Bolton - slight fall by 2 to 89 - up by 44 on last week. Pop score rise today was 31 - down 1. A start,


Manchester up 4 to 30 which is up 16 from last week unfortunately. But very reasonable numbers here still.

Rochdale takes third place yet again going up by 3 on 18 - which is up 5 week to week.

Trafford had a bad day up 12 to also go on 18 - though up just 1 wk to wk. Doing much better here now. Lost 4 Pop score points today on Stockport as a result.

Wigan also up by 9 on day to 16 - which is up 4 wk to wk.



Meaning that the other 5 boroughs stayed in single figures today:



Stockport falls 3 to 9 which is the same week to week. No sign yet of the Zoe trend which on there is already falling.

Salford up 2 also to 9 which is up 5 on last wk.

Oldham up 2 to 7 also - which is 4 down wk to wk.



And top of the tree today are two boroughs neck and neck:-

Bury as usual. Down 7 to 4 - which is down 3 more from last week

And no surprise here

Tameside down 7 also to 4 which is down 4 on last week.




Weekly total cases:-

Bolton closing in on 500 weekly cases more than double Manchester and 5 times most of the rest. Bury still easily in the lead.


Bury 42, Tameside 54, Oldham 66, Trafford 73, Salford 85. Stockport 87, Wigan 88, Rochdale 110, Manchester 225, Bolton 484.
 
Has anybody had the AZ jab and not been ill after it? Seems everybody I know had the side effects
 
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