Champions League Final | Post-Match Thread

You would think someone close to Pep would say something. He doesn’t tinker against stronger opposition; PSG, Madrid, Liverpool etc.
 
to go along with the fuck up side, when players are looking to make a pass, lose possession and raise their hands to say where the fuck are you, you know there’s an issue, this happened with both Stones and Dias last night, the last time this happened that I can recall was Spurs away.
the biggest pisser is this was a huge opportunity squandered, with the best will in the world Chelsea are fuck all, Tuchel stuck with the same tactics in three games against us because it worked, against so called lesser teams who sit back and don’t play to their strengths they will struggle. I doubt Chelsea will challenge for fuck all next season but have the cup we wanted.
 
91:23 said:
I don't believe for one second that Pep picked a team that he didn't think would win. He felt the same for the Lyon game too I'm sure. But like me and everyone of us, we are prone to a brain fart or two in our lives. I don't have an alarm that goes off to warn me when I'm about to have one. Usually for me it's the Mrs or the Boss at work who tells to me hold on a minute before I crash and burn and make a twat out of myself. So my question is where is Pep staff when he has them? That's their job surely or is that structure a dictatorship?
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One or two class him as a genius.

I disagree.

I would class him only as a really good domestic manager,with the right funding.

Geniuses do not lose so many European Finals,and semi-finals,and make the same mistakes,over,and over again.

Touchel had only been at Chelsea 4 months.His winning formula was playing his best 11 nearly every game,in their best postions.

Simple when you think about it.

Unfortunately we didnt get to see our best 11 in their best posrions to see how it would have panned out.

In one night Pep emulated Lyon last season,and equalled the Rags shite performance.
 
The1nvisibleMan said:
He hasn’t learnt because he did it in Lyon and did it again yesterday. He’s had five years to learn how to play against a 5 back team and we still can’t do it. Also what experience? The experience of not turning up and losing?
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He did learn and did it well against Conte’s Chelsea, Chelsea’s team then - defence - not dissimilar to last night, but with Hazard. We played with a DM and won both in 17/18. So lat night a fuck up, we all have them at work, but usually there’s a break around us rather than yes men.

Sterling getting a lot of stick, but both he and Silva/Mahrez kept their wing backs quiet from an attacking perspective, but that nullification meant we needed some creativity in the middle and de bruyne and Gundo were inhibited because Chelsea are good enough to create worry in our centre mids.

Tactics seemed like a weird combo of arrogance and fear. But we lost 1-0, could’ve been easily very different and pep lauded as the genius. His unpredictability has given us dreamland, it won’t work every time. Also, the way Chelsea closed the space around their D was impressive. Pep knew they could do that which is presumably why he went balls deep for the first goal with that line up. Still think he should’ve been more patient and stick to the tried and tested formula, but strangely he hasn’t rung me up for expert advice. I’ve got years of Sunday league experience as well ;)
 
Blu3m00n91 said:
You would think someone close to Pep would say something. He doesn’t tinker against stronger opposition; PSG, Madrid, Liverpool etc.
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Blu3m00n91 said:
You would think someone close to Pep would say something. He doesn’t tinker against stronger opposition; PSG, Madrid, Liverpool etc.
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The only person I've seen him listen to and take a shouting at from, was Torrent.
He"s a bit Clough without Taylor now.
 
bluegaz13 said:
I think Peps team selection for the two previous Chelsea games gave them the upper hand and the confidence coming into last nights game....it was definitely a contributing factor..coupled with the ludicrous decision to mess with the formation to get Sterling into the team.
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In my opinion , he threw the FA Cup because Dortmund was more important...then played a ridiculous lineup formation for the second Chelsea game on purpose.....instead of playing a Spurs Cowboy Cup and PSG second leg, he did what he did yesterday..........Truly mindbending......
 
ws01 said:
He also saves us a hell of a lot of goals too doing a very similar thing.

Definitely not
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ws01 said:
In regards to his coming out the box to meet the opposition attacker, it's a sort of take it or leave it sort of approach. A lot of the time it'll work and then there will be times when it doesn't. He's a mad bastard and I love it. Also, his ability to plant a ball on an attackers left or right peg from his own box is absolutely priceless.
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Right fuck it. We are still champs of England for third time in four years and won our 1976 cup four times on the trot so dreamland compared to 80s 90s and 2000s. As a mate of mine just said this (champs league) is the top competition, it is by definition elusive to the nearly everyone and needs everything to come together to win. Next year it is then. Enjoy the summer break everyone.
 
What ever the german coaches are using or doing to improve the fitness levels of the entire team ,we must start doing .
Big franks team, but with organisation & fitness Tuchel has improved them immensely, he has got pg in his pocket.
They will be the team to beat next season, we need a bit of a rebuild in some departments .
 
SidJames said:
One or two class him as a genius.

I disagree.

I would class him only as a really good domestic manager,with the right funding.

Geniuses do not lose so many European Finals,and semi-finals,and make the same mistakes,over,and over again.

Touchel had only been at Chelsea 4 months.His winning formula was playing his best 11 nearly every game,in their best postions.

Simple when you think about it.

Unfortunately we didnt get to see our best 11 in their best posrions to see how it would have panned out.

In one night Pep emulated Lyon last season,and equalled the Rags shite performance.
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Didn’t pep say in a recent interview that he’d learned lessons from the Lyon game? And I’m pretty sure he said he wouldn’t make the same mistakes again! Fuckin wow!
 
vicblueman said:
What ever the german coaches are using or doing to improve the fitness levels of the entire team ,we must start doing .
Big franks team, but with organisation & fitness Tuchel has improved them immensely, he has got pg in his pocket.
They will be the team to beat next season, we need a bit of a rebuild in some departments .
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so let’s now copy the German coaches?

even though our approach had just won us two trophies and got us to a final?
 
Chippy_boy said:
Well it's true that he offers absolutely no threat whatsoever. Even the running in behind, when he manages it, you can go and open another beer with no fear of missing him actually scoring or anything. Just come back to watch the replays of him falling over.
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You don't even need the replays. You have time to get two beers and he'll still be dithering when you get back.
 
bluegaz13 said:
I think Peps team selection for the two previous Chelsea games gave them the upper hand and the confidence coming into last nights game....it was definitely a contributing factor..coupled with the ludicrous decision to mess with the formation to get Sterling into the team.
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Exactly right. Not hindsight either, plenty were saying so at the time. They gained great confidence from their two wins against us and this was mentioned repeatedly in the run up to the final. The 3 points they won at the Etihad were crucial to their Champs League qualification which was another boost to their feel good factor leading up to the final. We were told that the team for the final would be radically different so those two games would be irrelevant, but this is a misunderstanding of the mentality of a footballer. As far as Chelsea’s players were concerned they had already beaten us twice and this was huge for their self belief. Added to the bizarre team selection, we contributed to our own downfall.
 
No1 was Colin bell said:
Right fuck it. We are still champs of England for third time in four years and won our 1976 cup four times on the trot so dreamland compared to 80s 90s and 2000s. As a mate of mine just said this (champs league) is the top competition, it is by definition elusive to the nearly everyone and needs everything to come together to win. Next year it is then. Enjoy the summer break everyone.
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We're all going Leningrad.
 
M Gaudino said:
It's the utd games that get to me.
Always instills to us and the players how great and massive they are.
Give me Mancini for the derbies every time
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Glad it is not just me.

Honestly i strted wondering if he had a Jizz stained poster of Mark Hughes in the loft somewhere.

Every Derby sets us up to make Rashford,and Martial looki like Peak Ronaldo,and Ronaldinho.

Then ater the the loss.

They are a great Club,with lots,and lots of history.........did i say lots of history enough times.

Every time he says it,i feel like he is having a dig at us,insulting us.By infering we have no history by making such stements.
 
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