England v Scotland | Euro 2020 Group Stage

Do not want Grealish. Won't fit in here

As for Kane, it's not looking good. He looks underdone, but it's starting to look like a bit of risk for us
Underdone ? I think he looks like a player with a hell of a lot of miles on the clock and very little tread left on his tires. He looks fucked to me. I agree he's a massive risk for any potential buyer.
 
I don't want to sound alarmist, but I actually thought Scotland played well against the Czech Republic and lost due to a great header and a world-class finish, when the goalie was stood too far out. Plus, I also felt they were the better team tonight.

So when I read that possible scenario, I felt a little chill. Mainly because 25 years ago, when England had that one mega-performance (4:1) v Netherlands, was it not the one Holland goal, that put Scotland out?

So us losing to the Czechs would not surprise me (after tonight), and although Scotland beating Croatia 3:0 sounds far-fetched, football is a funny old game and if that score dumped England out, imagine the motivation it would give the Jocks and their fans. Is it in Glasgow?
But we already have 4 points and are pretty certain to be one of the best third place teams at worst.
 
And if you think the game was bad, then turn over to BBC1 for that Peter Crouch Euros show absolute shite. One of the ‘expert guests’ is a pink haired cockney heifer who just said “I used to like West Ham, then I went to Leyton Orient and now I support Man U”
“Who’s your favourite player?”
Silence. She couldn’t name one
 
England play shit. So of course some people’s natural response is to have a dig at the opposition and their fans for daring to enjoy the performance and a result that keeps them alive in the tournament. Standard.
Some short memories considering how we used to celebrate a draw in the derby back in harder times

Well said mate. I've got zero ill grudges with the England team and always wish Foden, Stones, Sterling, Walker to do well but fuck some blues seem to have completely forgotten our roots.

We were supposed to be out tonight, embarrassed, humiliated. That we more than held our own and now have a fighting chance come Tuesday night I'll absolutely take.

Pre tournament I had us or the Czechs as the weak links in the group. I thought we deserved to beat the Czechs and by all accounts they were better than Croatia today so you never know.
 
Au contraire, mon ami.
It's Southgate who's celebrating the "we got a 0-0 at Wembley" Cup.
He's like a rabbit in headlights when it comes to his team playing adventurous football, preferring not to see them lose.
It was like watching the England of old, the same dour tactics seen since the days of Ramsey, with the odd exceptions. Backwards, sideways, backwards, sideways, ad nauseam, passing for passing's sake, and then a hoof forward.
Plus ca change, plus la meme chose.
Totally agree. That was an England performance of 20 years ago. Lots of long punts from Pickford with no creativity in midfield. Pitiful from Southgate. Dinosaur football. May as well get Fat Sam or Pulis in. It was like a Burnley performance. Southgate is a total moron.
 
He’s played Foden out of position two games running, and takes him off despite being the best player in the pitch even though he was out of position.
Great post. Phil has done great given the roles he was given. Gareth has his favourites, and looking at the midfield 3 and the front 3, there was no-one else he could take off until he finally took Harry off ... had Phil been twins, he'd have taken him off twice in one match!
 
He’s played Foden out of position two games running, and takes him off despite being the best player in the pitch even though he was out of position.
Not for the first time I’m hoping for England to fail in order to hasten the exit of a useless national team manager.

As a group we have one of the best groups of young attacking players in decades so what does Southgate do? Sets up way too conservative, no creative midfield players. why…

Its fucking Sotland… and he sets up like we’re playing peak Brazil…

and the Scots on here… that pt won’t qualify you... so why celebrate like you’ve won something? Embarrassing all round…
 
whowill he change for the next game,can see only Sancho and Grealish for the City pair up top and poss slabhead /henderson getting gametime,but little tactical change
 
Well said mate. I've got zero ill grudges with the England team and always wish Foden, Stones, Sterling, Walker to do well but fuck some blues seem to have completely forgotten our roots.

We were supposed to be out tonight, embarrassed, humiliated. That we more than held our own and now have a fighting chance come Tuesday night I'll absolutely take.

Pre tournament I had us or the Czechs as the weak links in the group. I thought we deserved to beat the Czechs and by all accounts they were better than Croatia today so you never know.
Scotland were the better team. As Souness said it was a controlled performance, nothing to do with passion. If you had any sort of striker you could have won 3-0. It was a tactical victory for Steve Clarke...though Southgate made it easier for him.
 

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