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So if he is now a free agent, that means that if he decides to stay at barca then it will be deemed a new signing, and fall under ffp.....is this correct?

If so how the hell can barca afford to do this?
 
BlueMoonz1977 said:
So if he is now a free agent, that means that if he decides to stay at barca then it will be deemed a new signing, and fall under ffp.....is this correct?

If so how the hell can barca afford to do this?
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It feels all be a bit of a pantomime.

Barcelona, or rather Laporta, can claim they wanted and tried to sign messi and he really wanted to stay, but the financial mess by bartomeu meant they had to move forward as a club.

Interestingly, nothing at all from the messi camp. The only thing this morning is a claim by Goal (who messi gave that exclusive interview to btw) that they understand Messi is 'calm and focused on the tournament and not on his contract situation'.
 
Coatigan said:
It feels all be a bit of a pantomime.

Barcelona, or rather Laporta, can claim they wanted and tried to sign messi and he really wanted to stay, but the financial mess by bartomeu meant they had to move forward as a club.

Interestingly, nothing at all from the messi camp. The only thing this morning is a claim by Goal (who messi gave that exclusive interview to btw) that they understand Messi is 'calm and focused on the tournament and not on his contract situation'.
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Not read what that tit Tebas said, but if barca re-sign him and it is classed as a 'new signing' for the season which means it will fall under ffp restrictions - then surely the amount of money in question would effectively mean barca cant make it work without breaking ffp regs

Seems weird that the deadline has gone as surely barca would have been hoping messi would have agreed to re-new before it expired
 
BlueMoonz1977 said:
Not read what that tit Tebas said, but if barca re-sign him and it is classed as a 'new signing' for the season which means it will fall under ffp restrictions - then surely the amount of money in question would effectively mean barca cant make it work without breaking ffp regs

Seems weird that the deadline has gone as surely barca would have been hoping messi would have agreed to re-new before it expired
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Having read what tebas said, or the reported version, I think it can be interpreted two ways.

Barcelona are above a wages over cap threshold which triggers a sanction that means they can only spend 25% of what they raise, in both transfer fees and wages.

So if with messi on their wages they are over the cap, messi is removed from the wages they fall below, that imposition is removed and he or anyone can sign for them without having to offset funding 75% of that by sales or wage reductions. Sounds perverse, and the timing might not really work, but purely reading what he said, it is there, for me.

The other side is, as you suggest, that now that he hasn't re-signed as a continuing player, he is effectively a new signing and falls under those same restrictions, assuming they are still over the wage cap threshold. I.e if they are to pay him 50m a year, they have to free up 200m to do so. Making it impossible to sign him. Which seems the more logical one to me tbh.

Tebas obviously has the say, and if there are two interpretations to choose from, doubt it will be one that has an adverse effect on Barcelona.
 
Dobsy said:
Psychologically at least, it will be a strange feeling for him to wake up and know he is not under contract at any football club. There's no accounting for how he might feel.
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Exactly. That was my point yesterday, even if he was indeed all up for continuing, and waiting at risk as a free agent at a tournament for barca to sort their shit out, how long before a rethink creeps in. Having felt he is no longer a Barcelona player, after 20 years.
 
Coatigan said:
Having read what tebas said, or the reported version, I think it can be interpreted two ways.

Barcelona are above a wages over cap threshold which triggers a sanction that means they can only spend 25% of what they raise, in both transfer fees and wages.

So if with messi on their wages they are over the cap, messi is removed from the wages they fall below, that imposition is removed and he or anyone can sign for them without having to offset funding 75% of that by sales or wage reductions. Sounds perverse, and the timing might not really work, but purely reading what he said, it is there, for me.

The other side is, as you suggest, that now that he hasn't re-signed as a continuing player, he is effectively a new signing and falls under those same restrictions, assuming they are still over the wage cap threshold. I.e if they are to pay him 50m a year, they have to free up 200m to do so. Making it impossible to sign him. Which seems the more logical one to me tbh.

Tebas obviously has the say, and if there are two interpretations to choose from, doubt it will be one that has an adverse effect on Barcelona.
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The last thing that dick would want is Messi rocking up at City so I reckon that gives us a pretty clear indication as to what he’d do. Despite his better judgement…
 
Our former team-sheet leaker, Jose Alvarez Haya, is saying Messi is staying. You’d think he’d know, being so close to Sergio?
 
I was hugely in favour of this signing last year. Not so much now. Maybe hearing more on the Grealish and Kane deals has meant me not really focusing on the prospect of Messi but I just can’t see him coming to us. Last year was our chance and sadly Barca played hard ball. Don’t get me wrong he is still the greatest player ever in my opinion and would love to have him but I just feel that there’s more he likes at Barca right now that he didn’t last year. 1) Kun is there. 2) Laporta is there and not Bartomeu. 3) I’m sure in the interview he wanted to see the Barca youth being played more rather than shit signings (not a direct quote) and they have done this with the introduction of some real good players with Pedri not to mention Garcia going back.
 
philjoneswho? said:
I was hugely in favour of this signing last year. Not so much now. Maybe hearing more on the Grealish and Kane deals has meant me not really focusing on the prospect of Messi but I just can’t see him coming to us. Last year was our chance and sadly Barca played hard ball. Don’t get me wrong he is still the greatest player ever in my opinion and would love to have him but I just feel that there’s more he likes at Barca right now that he didn’t last year. 1) Kun is there. 2) Laporta is there and not Bartomeu. 3) I’m sure in the interview he wanted to see the Barca youth being played more rather than shit signings (not a direct quote) and they have done this with the introduction of some real good players with Pedri not to mention Garcia going back.
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Sorry did you say real good players and garcia in the same sentence?
Come on now, enough trying to wind people up.
 
philjoneswho? said:
There’s only one reason why you would say that. The fact he wanted to leave when we wanted to keep him. Had he signed a new deal you’d be gushing at how great this young lad is
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Disagree

Garcia is not good enough for us and I couldn't care less he fucked off

What fucked me off more last year was the fact he started games and taking away the chance of players who wanted to stay at the club.

Good riddance
 
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