Do you think the Trafford centre will last 20 more years?

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I just accepted its not intended for people like me. If I need to go, I google where the shop is so I can be in and out as soon as possible, but its full of the intended target those gormless idiots who just sort of wander around all day like they've got nothing better to do and really struggle with the self explanatory one way system. Nothing worse than when you get stuck behind a big family of them, like extras from Shaun of the dead.
 
Don't mind it but getting there is a pain and it's not somewhere I'd go of my own accord. Think online kills off the need for places like this. Would be much more interesting as a pride of Manchester market place with independent shops, cafes and restaurants and promote a local community and marketplace. The big brands are all going online and closing shops, give the spaces back to the communities who had their butchers, bakers, cafes, post offices and shops away from them to make way for the brands who undercut the locals.
There's another monstrosity in the borough of Trafford that also thinks it's the PoM, so why can't it call itself the Pride of Trafford, then fight it out with their neighbours for the title?
I'm also wondering why the Glazers haven't bought it yet, to be their flagship store.
Having said that, my eldest daughter used to get Christmas cards from Selfridges, she went there that often. Now, living near @oakiecokie , she use it as a convenient rendezvous point to meet her friend, who lives in Miggleton.
 
the problem with many buildings these days is that not enough money is put into sinking funds to maintain and replace. I was looking at the number of light bulbs missing, failure to upkeep the external landscaping. Even the tiles In the toilets are starting to crack badly. Not been done for 25 years and I guess rents and service charge collection are down by maybe 50 percent. Very few buildings last 100 years performing the same function.
Was reading the other day that in 1910 (about 100 years ago)there was approx 25 million horses in the country with a population of 48 mill, so its no wonder, given that rate of change in society, that buildings don't have the same function for 100 years, in fact 25 years is a long time
 
I have used it a lot over the years having lived between Urmston and Worsley a lot with kids from my various marriages nearby. Had many happy times with my kids and meals and good shopping trips and I have enjoyed it and it is sad to see it declining. Today was the first time I have thought I don’t really like it here.
Similar situation for me. I went on day 1, when I lived in Urmston. I've enjoyed it from time to time, especially when the kids were small. It was somewhere to go when it was wet. Shopping ok too.

I went a few weeks ago with the wife and 21 year old, and was astounded at the price of three burgers and milk shakes from Five Guys. It was the evening. The car park was rammed full of cars driven by bone idle drivers, all competing for the disabled spots and grass verges and pavements closest to the entrance, in order to minimise their walking distances, and cause frustration and inconvenience for everyone else.

Inside, the entertainment areas were very busy, and I was amazed at the sheet number of young people (many of them girls with pouting lip implants) that were exempt from wearing face coverings. Not a very nice experience really.

Luckily for me, I'm retired now. I prefer a nice midweek day out at Chester, or York or somewhere else nice, when there are fewer people around. I'll probably still go to the TC to see the Christmas displays, or if I get a new phone or TV or something. John Lewis at Hanforth Dean is another nice alternative.
 
Was reading the other day that in 1910 (about 100 years ago)there was approx 25 million horses in the country with a population of 48 mill, so its no wonder, given that rate of change in society, that buildings don't have the same function for 100 years, in fact 25 years is a long time
It was only 8 years ago that a Trafford based team were PL champions.
Doesn't time fly when you're having fun (at their expense)?
;-))
 
Was reading the other day that in 1910 (about 100 years ago)there was approx 25 million horses in the country with a population of 48 mill, so its no wonder, given that rate of change in society, that buildings don't have the same function for 100 years, in fact 25 years is a long time
I think you need to question your sources on this occasion. That's a heck of a lot of horses - one for every two people!
 
I think you need to question your sources on this occasion. That's a heck of a lot of horses - one for every two people!

Those figures are a tad bonkers, there were 3.3 million horses in the UK in 1900.

As of 2017 there were around 170,000

On a side note 6 million horses served in the First World War, a great number dying in terrible circumstances.
 
Those figures are a tad bonkers, there were 3.3 million horses in the UK in 1900.

As of 2017 there were around 170,000

On a side note 6 million horses served in the First World War, a great number dying in terrible circumstances.
Possibly from QI, there is a story that the motorcar saved the newly expanding urban US cities from various diseases and drowning in horseshit, due to the sheer volume of horses for getting around town, either singularly or more often carriage taxis, was becoming unsustainable and downright danger to human health.
 
I think the only way the Trafford centre will survive long term is to change the demographic of the shops they have. they need to create a decent "independent" area, where lots of smaller shops can move into for cheap and as they build there businesses then move into more prominent units etc. the "high street" in effect needs a massive overhaul away from big brands.
 
Isn't it every 10 years DEB'e ? I was over there in 1980, they were just rehearsing for the play at the time. Failsworth is twinned with Landsberg, went over as a guest with the brass band. Beautiful part of the country. Landsberg Prison is where Hitler dictated Mein Kampf.
Yer prob right, Arthur. I'm at the point where five minutes and ten years are pretty interchangeable.
 
The food offerings are pretty much solely crappy big chains.

The shops are much the same, and you can generally get anything a lot cheaper on line.

At least Manchesters got the hustle and bustle of the NQ, smaller independents to make things worth while.

Used to love going when I was a kid but never spent anything.
 
My daughter pronounced the name wrong and called it the traffic centre, which is quite apt.
Anyway, yes it will survive. I imagine it will need to adapt though and will see more entertainment facilities and less shops.
 
Went today for the first time in a while. Looks scruffy and in need of investment. Debenhams gone, Top Man, Top Shop, Thornton’s. TM Lewin and many many more and the replacement shops looked more befitting of Stretford Market. It’s fair to say it has peaked after 25 years and I can’t only see a gradual downfall. The days of a day out there are long gone. Clientele and quality of shops seems to be falling and I don’t know how it can be turned around easily.

Manchester City centre is also poor for shopping in my opinion.
I’d put shopping centres/malls in Room 101 if I could. I hate the places!

I never go to the Trafford Centre. Bet I’ve been there half a dozen times ever since it opened. It’s not for men that place, hardly any menswear stores, and absolutely no indies.

Town is really good for shopping if you’re a man, loads of indies around street corners here and there. Can’t stand the Arndale though. I’d knock it down tomorrow if I could, it takes up a prime city centre location.

At a push I’d allow something like a large Barton Arcade to be built in place of the Armadale because it’s an interesting building and nice to be in, but I’d still rather have open air streets.
 
My daughter pronounced the name wrong and called it the traffic centre, which is quite apt.
Anyway, yes it will survive. I imagine it will need to adapt though and will see more entertainment facilities and less shops.
Can you buy groceries there, I mean is there a Tesco, Asda etc
The big malls here have those, I presume to attract more people.
 

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