Italy v England | Euro 2020 Final

[Onholiday(somemightsay)]

Has anyone won a Euros and a premier league as a manager?

Roberto?

 

[madloaf]

Not for me, great moments but some equally poor ones too.

Calvin-Phillips by a mile, a worthy replacement for Dinho if we can get him.

Imagine Pep coaching him.

He was bang average from the 2nd half of scotland match til the last ten minutes of the 2nd half tonight.

 

[G-Star Medium Rare]

You have watched sterling right?

Yep.
Winning pen in League Cup final against Chelsea 2019.
" top left bin" as I recall Raz saying post match.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Gutted. Fair play Southgate and the England players for getting to the final. Did the country proud.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

So what's missing from the BBC headline.......

Sancho, Jorginho & Saka miss penalties as Italy edge England at Wembley

Watch the decisive final penalties of the dramatic shootout as Italy beat England 3-2 on penalties to win the European Championship after a tense 120 minutes ended 1-1 at Wembley.

www.bbc.co.uk

Ashton was on the phone to BBC Sport the moment St Marcus fluffed that penalty.

 

[Mancity1980]

TBF I thought Shaw and Maguire played well… As did Walker and Stones with Sterling the pick (quiet final.. more to do with tactics though). I actually think the Manchester clubs had the best performers with City obviously edging it. Rashford and Sancho fucked it though.

Exactly.

 

[robbieh]

Bringing on 2 players to take penalties was a disaster. Puts them under too much pressure.Why couldn't Grealish have taken a penalty? Or Sterling.

 

[ws01]

Not for me, great moments but some equally poor ones too.

Calvin-Phillips by a mile, a worthy replacement for Dinho if we can get him.

Imagine Pep coaching him.

Surely a wum post

Phillips is fucking awful. Was useless out there tonight and dogshit for all but one game. Bellingham is two, three times the player he is

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

Pickford
Walker
Stones
Slabhead
Shaw
Rice
Bellingham
Grealish
Foden
Sterling
Kane

That's the fucking side for the World Cup. Don't fuck with it

Agree with all but one. Bellingham? I don't think so. The defence should not be touched. And I don't care what anyone says or thinks, the Stones-Maguire pairing was the best central defence in the tournament. Walker and Shaw were also both really good (although Shaw started very slowly, and that's gone a bit under the radar). It's got the makings of a good team. In the hands of an inspired manager, they could go very far in the WC. That is the big question.
This tournament? Perhaps it's shallow of me, but I'm already over it. I didn't expect us to win it, and I didn't expect us to even be in the final. It was a bonus. We came up against a better team, and lost on penalties.
Definitely not going to spend days moping over it, the way I did over the CL final. Now that one, we should have won.

 

[5 Hit Gibbon]

I feel so bad for Saka. Never taken a penalty in his professional career and is left to take that one.

Someone is at fault here and it's not Bukayo.

Shocking to leave it to him.

 

[RACHACE]

Hoof ball was never going to be enough to beat this Italian side

It wasn't enough to beat Denmark or those no marks Scotland either.

 

[Nascent Blues]

We have loads of attacking players, but what we don't have is a central midfielder who can dictate the tempo like David Silva, Jorghino, Modric, Busquets etc. A player who will receive, move, pass, receive, move, pass. Until we do, we'll underachieve and never be able to exploit the attacking talent at our disposal.

 

[D'Silva]

I agree how can any Blue not have a soft spot for Bobby Manc?

Still my favorite City manager. I've only known 4 TBF.

 

[Gray]

The whole defence were excellent regardless of what team they play for. I even warmed to Rice and Phillips.

As numb nuts ain't going anywhere he needs to find a better balance for the other positions and also play only one DM sometimes. We created pretty much nothing in 2 hours of football.

Yes after our first attack resulted in a goal, we just sat back and hoped for the best.

 

[madloaf]

Surely a wum post

Phillips is fucking awful. Was useless out there tonight and dogshit for all but one game. Bellingham is two, three times the player he is

And hes only 18

 

[Pam]

I agree how can any Blue not have a soft spot for Bobby Manc?

Exactly. Bobby Manc is a City legend. Why shouldn't we be happy for him?

 

[stonie]

shit happens as we well know, this will be forgot about tomorrow I for one still not over the champs league final, yep we lost with a whimper but sod it, over to the transfer forum we go

 

[andyhinch]

Well Ukraine apart I thought we looked pretty crap/rank average from match 1. Not remotely surprised we lost, just a bit surprised it took Italy untill extra time to do it.

I'm just a bit gutted I didn't put a few Bob on my pre-tournament prediction of Italy bearing England in the final :-(

I got 3-1 on a draw when they went 1 down, no way we were holding out for 88 minutes. Have a said Southgate is a risk averse **** resonantly ?

 

[bluenova]

No need to put the blame on the players.
Missing penalties after playing 3 mins of football isn't letting anyone down.

Southgate was too hesitant making changes and the penalty subs (emulating OGS) was a daft thing to do.

I'd be interested to know if this tactic is statistically successful.

To be fair, Rashford and Sancho both have excellent penalty records.

Southgate himself would know that trying to take a penalty when you've never (or almost never) scored one previously is almost certainly statistically more risky.

 

[Newman Noggs]

Southgates not going anywhere, were going to be fed the bullshit now of how he's that good by getting us to a final,extended contract on the table no doubt, its a shame because this England team has great potential under the right manager

This is what I can't understand. There's a hysterical giddiness in the media about getting favourable draws right to the final and then losing which makes them blind to what a terrible manager Southgate is.

If Allardyce had put out that side to play like that tonight (and I think he'd have actually done better) he'd have been slaughtered.