US Politics Thread

[journolud]

For the 'gang' on here, see the 'grifter' that is Bill Burr...



Bang on and what I've been saying about your obsession of Trump.

You're being played by MSM.

Well he’s got an opinion and it concurs with yours but isn’t necessarily right

 

[Bigga]

Well he’s got an opinion and it concurs with yours but isn’t necessarily right

Soooo... You don't think the media focuses on Trump too much?

You don't think they're giving him much more media attention yet again??

You don't think the media are keeping the citizens jacked up on fear whilst they ignore Biden's consent of MORE drilling, going against his own climate pledge?

Whilst they ignore how much money is spent on bombings and Biden's secret meetings with the Saudis and Biden's silence on the public option he promised, similar laws to 'Asian Hate Crime Bill' for the Black community or reparations for the Black community when Japan have asked and received and I believe as the Jewish community...?

I could go on, literally. These are ACTUAL events going on in people's lives not addressed or side-lined. Subjects this 'gang' refuse to talk about.

They don't think they're brainwashed such is the problem with Stockholm Syndrome victims.

This is why 'ignore' is such an easy out because it's difficult to deal with the hard truth.

 

[journolud]

Soooo... You don't think the media focuses on Trump too much?

You don't think they're giving him much more media attention yet again??

You don't think the media are keeping the citizens jacked up on fear whilst they ignore Biden's consent of MORE drilling, going against his own climate pledge?

Whilst they ignore how much money is spent on bombings and Biden's secret meetings with the Saudis and Biden's silence on the public option he promised, similar laws to 'Asian Hate Crime Bill' for the Black community or reparations for the Black community when Japan have asked and received and I believe as the Jewish community...?

I could go on, literally. These are ACTUAL events going on in people's lives not addressed or side-lined. Subjects this 'gang' refuse to talk about.

They don't think they're brainwashed such is the problem with Stockholm Syndrome victims.

This is why 'ignore' is such an easy out because it's difficult to deal with the hard truth.

Well Trump is still news as the ongoing investigations into his part in encouraging the jan 6th insurrection and the ongoing investigations into his corruption illustrate. Do I think the media focus on him too much? I don’t watch as much American MSM as you seem to do (despite your antipathy towards it) so wouldn’t know.

In the clip you chose to support your point the “comedian “ Bill Burr did indeed bemoan the continued focus on Trump before going on to rant, littered with profanities, about CNN reporting the devastating fires in California and the ongoing pandemic, expressing a preference for only “good” news to be reported. Hardly a heavyweight opinion but like your previous clip of that other overrated fuckwit Russell Brand it seems like you’ll use any old half assed opinion piece to support your view. (First time I’ve heard Burr by the way, I might be being harsh but this particular segment sucked).

Where I would agree with you up to a point is that Biden should be held to account for the decisions he makes in office but as above I don’t know if that stuff is reported or not as I don’t watch American MSM. I guess Fox would find it useful distraction from the pandemic their corrupt former president allowed to wreak more havoc than it should.

Your last sentence is a perfect illustration of why others choose not to engage with you. Your over inflated view of and strident expression of your opinion as fact or the truth is pretty wearing. Still, it’s good to have opinions and that you care

 

[Bigga]

Well Trump is still news as the ongoing investigations into his part in encouraging the jan 6th insurrection and the ongoing investigations into his corruption illustrate. Do I think the media focus on him too much? I don’t watch as much American MSM as you seem to do (despite your antipathy towards it) so wouldn’t know.

In the clip you chose to support your point the “comedian “ Bill Burr did indeed bemoan the continued focus on Trump before going on to rant, littered with profanities, about CNN reporting the devastating fires in California and the ongoing pandemic, expressing a preference for only “good” news to be reported. Hardly a heavyweight opinion but like your previous clip of that other overrated fuckwit Russell Brand it seems like you’ll use any old half assed opinion piece to support your view. (First time I’ve heard Burr by the way, I might be being harsh but this particular segment sucked).

Where I would agree with you up to a point is that Biden should be held to account for the decisions he makes in office but as above I don’t know if that stuff is reported or not as I don’t watch American MSM. I guess Fox would find it useful distraction from the pandemic their corrupt former president allowed to wreak more havoc than it should.

Your last sentence is a perfect illustration of why others choose not to engage with you. Your over inflated view of and strident expression of your opinion as fact or the truth is pretty wearing. Still, it’s good to have opinions and that you care

I'll cut to the quick; go back 10 pages, no 20... no 50 pages and see how Trump and acolytes dominate the discussion more than the subject matters I've raised, on a regular basis, on a POLITICS thread which should be a varied subject in itself. The guy has his OWN thread, ffs!

Maybe you'll see why I call them them out and and why you swim along with the 'overinflated' viewpoint posters seem to have about me.

Happy to wait.

 

[west didsblue]

I'll cut to the quick; go back 10 pages, no 20... no 50 pages and see how Trump and acolytes dominate the discussion more than the subject matters I've raised, on a regular basis, on a POLITICS thread which should be a varied subject in itself. The guy has his OWN thread, ffs!

Maybe you'll see why I call them them out and and why you swim along with the 'overinflated' viewpoint posters seem to have about me.

Happy to wait.

One day you’ll realise that discussion about subject matters that you raise don’t get discussed much because no one gives a fuck what you think because all you do is post made up bullshit, tedious YT clips and insult anyone who foolishly bothers to engage with you.

Oh fuck, what have I just done?

Insult incoming.

 

[journolud]

I'll cut to the quick; go back 10 pages, no 20... no 50 pages and see how Trump and acolytes dominate the discussion more than the subject matters I've raised, on a regular basis, on a POLITICS thread which should be a varied subject in itself. The guy has his OWN thread, ffs!

Maybe you'll see why I call them them out and and why you swim along with the 'overinflated' viewpoint posters seem to have about me.

Happy to wait.

You’ll be waiting a while, I’m not going backwards in this thread. I know Trump gets maybe a disproportionate amount of coverage in this thread but I answered your point being made about the MSM and you dodged the point about why people won’t engage with you

 

[Bigga]

One day you’ll realise that discussion about subject matters that you raise don’t get discussed much because no one gives a fuck what you think because all you do is post made up bullshit, tedious YT clips and insult anyone who foolishly bothers to engage with you.

Oh fuck, what have I just done?

Insult incoming.

Here's your insult: don't engage.

What? No expletives levelled at you? Why? probably because you've posted your own insult without calling me fucking this, that and the other.

It's weird cos I've posted articles within the last few pages AND YT clips to underline my point. You're not arsed to understand the underlying issues as MSM haven't covered them for you.

You're actually believing a rise in wages, strikes, marches, bombings, Russia-gating, equal laws and reparations are "made up bullshit".

Glad you've openly expressed wanton idiocy on real life as "bullshit" as they are subjects you continue to avoid.

Keep on keeping on, chum.

 

[Bigga]

You’ll be waiting a while, I’m not going backwards in this thread. I know Trump gets maybe a disproportionate amount of coverage in this thread but I answered your point being made about the MSM and you dodged the point about why people won’t engage with you

I've dodged nothing, but the reality is, if you've not read the thread and just jump in here and there, you will miss the very reasons why I've responded the way I do as their viewpoint is it's "circular", which means they are happy with politics the way they are; crafted against the poor and working class, whilst the 'top' cream off those laws.

Their continued "circular" points means there's nothing for them to engage discussion about and so shield themselves with that armour.

 

[journolud]

I've dodged nothing, but the reality is, if you've not read the thread and just jump in here and there, you will miss the very reasons why I've responded the way I do as their viewpoint is it's "circular", which means they are happy with politics the way they are; crafted against the poor and working class, whilst the 'top' cream off those laws.

Their continued "circular" points means there's nothing for them to engage discussion about and so shield themselves with that armour.

I have read the thread, even the tedious bits where you trade insults with “them”. You totally misrepresent them in the post above.

 

[Bigga]

I have read the thread, even the tedious bits where you trade insults with “them”. You totally misrepresent them in the post above.

In your opinion.

In mine, when they 'don't agree' with me and call my discussion "circular" without finding common ground and seeing what could be done, they shut down the discussion and throw insults.

Their own beliefs were 'if you're not a supporter of Biden, you're a Trump apologist'.

So, if I use the same methodology, I'm the one 'misrepresenting' them...?

I find this fascinating, the hoops people will jump through.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

In your opinion.

In mine, when they 'don't agree' with me and call my discussion "circular" without finding common ground and seeing what could be done, they shut down the discussion and throw insults.

Their own beliefs were 'if you're not a supporter of Biden, you're a Trump apologist'.

So, if I use the same methodology, I'm the one 'misrepresenting' them...?

I find this fascinating, the hoops people will jump through.

Why do you post in here? You never discuss anything, merely shout your “truth” and insult anyone with the temerity to disagree with it.

That is why people don’t listen to you.

I’ve asked you before, what is your endgame in posting like you do?

 

[journolud]

In your opinion.

In mine, when they 'don't agree' with me and call my discussion "circular" without finding common ground and seeing what could be done, they shut down the discussion and throw insults.

Their own beliefs were 'if you're not a supporter of Biden, you're a Trump apologist'.

So, if I use the same methodology, I'm the one 'misrepresenting' them...?

I find this fascinating, the hoops people will jump through.

Yes, in my opinion. Is there common ground with you? I believe I’ve shared that in the past but have no sense of you ever considering the point of view of others

 

[Bigga]

Why do you post in here? You never discuss anything, merely shout your “truth” and insult anyone with the temerity to disagree with it.

That is why people don’t listen to you.

I’ve asked you before, what is your endgame in posting like you do?

Well, in 'my truth' we have very little in common when seeing the world through my eyes. I suspect, largely, you have a hue much lighter than mine because there ARE issues you would engage me on, like Mr Munson does via proxy.

And whilst he can only engage via proxy, he understands, as much as he can, my position. Well, that's the impression I have.

As for 'discussion', do you think I started out in the position I'm on? I've noted as these pages have gone on how my demographic is side-lined/ not counted. There are people in this thread that create people like me.

You want to disagree with Black issues? That's your right. But I will insult anybody who saddles me as a 'grifter' because I speak on POLITICAL issues that affect my demographic on a stage where people accumulate in numbers.

People 'like me' ALWAYS have to listen to your people and accept what YOUR people think is important because for the rest of us, we have to spoon down incrementalism as the only avenue of 'truth' for us.

It's up to you if you see an "endgame" in there or not.

 

[Bigga]

Yes, in my opinion. Is there common ground with you? I believe I’ve shared that in the past but have no sense of you ever considering the point of view of others

Amusing.

This is a short response as I've said much of what you ask in the previous reply.

The "PoV of others" is what people like me have had shoved down our throats all our lives.

 

[journolud]

Amusing.

This is a short response as I've said much of what you ask in the previous reply.

The "PoV of others" is what people like me have had shoved down our throats all our lives.

Well if you believe me having a different opinion to you means I’m shoving it down your throat rather than trying to engage you, based on your past experiences then I’m wasting my time

 

[Bigga]

Well if you believe me having a different opinion to you means I’m shoving it down your throat rather than trying to engage you, based on your past experiences then I’m wasting my time

Again, if you consider yourself someone who supports the pouring of money into space jollies whilst poor people suffer from a slow down in a rise in wages whilst everything else rises etc., like the usual bunch that have me on 'ignore' then yeah, you're wasting your time.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Well, in 'my truth' we have very little in common when seeing the world through my eyes. I suspect, largely, you have a hue much lighter than mine because there ARE issues you would engage me on, like Mr Munson does via proxy.

And whilst he can only engage via proxy, he understands, as much as he can, my position. Well, that's the impression I have.

As for 'discussion', do you think I started out in the position I'm on? I've noted as these pages have gone on how my demographic is side-lined/ not counted. There are people in this thread that create people like me.

You want to disagree with Black issues? That's your right. But I will insult anybody who saddles me as a 'grifter' because I speak on POLITICAL issues that affect my demographic on a stage where people accumulate in numbers.

People 'like me' ALWAYS have to listen to your people and accept what YOUR people think is important because for the rest of us, we have to spoon down incrementalism as the only avenue of 'truth' for us.

It's up to you if you see an "endgame" in there or not.

Poor me, poor me, pour me a drink.

Who has actually called you a grifter?

As you can't monetise posts on Bluemoon and you aren't plugging another social media presence of your own, it is self-evident that you aren't.

You do have a habit of posting videos of grifters though, although you often don't realise that they are grifters.

 

[journolud]

Again, if you consider yourself someone who supports the pouring of money into space jollies whilst poor people suffer from a slow down in a rise in wages whilst everything else rises etc., like the usual bunch that have me on 'ignore' then yeah, you're wasting your time.

Using words I never said to suggest I believe things I don’t believe rather than responding to the point. That’s pretty offensive

 

[west didsblue]

You’ll be waiting a while, I’m not going backwards in this thread. I know Trump gets maybe a disproportionate amount of coverage in this thread but I answered your point being made about the MSM and you dodged the point about why people won’t engage with you

The Biden thread was originally started because Bigga refused to discuss Trump in the Trump thread and would just go on about Biden. For him to complain about others mentioning Trump in this thread (which is hardly surprising as it is a thread about US politics in general and he is still the de facto leader of the GOP) is the height of hypocrisy and clear evidence of his lack of self awareness.

 

[Bigga]

Poor me, poor me, pour me a drink.

Who has actually called you a grifter?

As you can't monetise posts on Bluemoon and you aren't plugging another social media presence of your own, it is self-evident that you aren't.

You do have a habit of posting videos of grifters though, although you often don't realise that they are grifters.

Type in the word in search and see who has levelled it at me.

As for posting videos about 'grifters', are you accusing Nina Turner, Bernie Sanders, Tim Black, Jimmy Dore, Russell Brand, Robert Wolff, Dr Cornell West, Joe Rogan and whomever as 'grifters'??

Rogan, who hates Trump and calls him 'dangerous'? Wolff who sets out the economic problems with capitalism? Turner, Dore, Sanders, Dr West, Black whom all advocate for M4A are all grifters?

I'm just not sure any of you know what the word means.