Women's Team - 2021/22

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decmancity said:
View attachment 25988NYCFC Results past few years. They are getting closer, MLS is very difficult division to win. They still don't even have their own stadium ffs.

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Womens team past few years. Chelsea and Lyon are very strong, its tough to keep your best players in the womens game. Consistently challenging is very impressive.

Girona have been in the La Liga since we took over, the first time in their history and they are a very small team who just struggled in their second season and got relegated.

I am not sure what is half-hearted there.

I note you didn't mention Melbourne City who won the premier league last year? and the Melbourne City Women are the most successful team in Australia since 2015.

How about Montevideo and Yokohama F. Marinos who won the league in 2019?

Mumbai City who won the league last year?
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New York City should be the #1 club in the MLS, there's no star branding or real breakthrough in that market and we should have got them a new stadium by now.

Melbourne finally won something after many years of failed attempts, again bigger investment could have brought them a much better squad much quicker.

City women, again a huge opportunity to be the dominant English side like Lyon were in France and instead we gave Chelsea the mantle and have now pissed about in 2nd and let the Rags gain a foothold in the sport rather than be the British side in the competition. We've given Gareth the job instead of demonstrate where we'll take the game by bringing people in far above anything else in this country in terms of coaching etc.

Girona are back unable to get out of the Segunda Division when they should be a mid-table La Liga side signing up the best young European, particularly Spanish talent, that drops outside the branches of Barca, Real and Atletico.

We're doing it on the cheap and we're half baked with intermittent success across the board, as opposed to utter ruthless investment and domination. Then again, the club can't even treat the fans right or buy a striker when promised so it's unsurprising. Lots of talk, little walk.
 
PannickAtTheDisco said:
I don't get the point of the CFG if we aren't going to treat every team as their only purpose as being the best they can be. The Women's team comes across as an afterthought because we give the job to one of the boys instead of paying to have the best coaching team possible and the best squad within the salary cap possible with the best academy talent. Same with Girona, same with New York etc. Either put your money where your mouth is or get off the pot. Sick of half-hearted effort at board level at this club.
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They obviously aren't serious about the womens game.

It would take 1 or 2% of CFG revenue to make them the best side in the world and pick up a ton of trophies as Lyon and Wolfsburg have done, and Barcelona seem set to for the foreseeable.

Always felt like its such an obvious place to grow the brand of the club, as womens football is only getting more and more exposure.
 
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PannickAtTheDisco said:
New York City should be the #1 club in the MLS, there's no star branding or real breakthrough in that market and we should have got them a new stadium by now.

Melbourne finally won something after many years of failed attempts, again bigger investment could have brought them a much better squad much quicker.

City women, again a huge opportunity to be the dominant English side like Lyon were in France and instead we gave Chelsea the mantle and have now pissed about in 2nd and let the Rags gain a foothold in the sport rather than be the British side in the competition. We've given Gareth the job instead of demonstrate where we'll take the game by bringing people in far above anything else in this country in terms of coaching etc.

Girona are back unable to get out of the Segunda Division when they should be a mid-table La Liga side signing up the best young European, particularly Spanish talent, that drops outside the branches of Barca, Real and Atletico.

We're doing it on the cheap and we're half baked with intermittent success across the board, as opposed to utter ruthless investment and domination. Then again, the club can't even treat the fans right or buy a striker when promised so it's unsurprising. Lots of talk, little walk.
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Sack the board!

:-)
 
decmancity said:
View attachment 25988NYCFC Results past few years. They are getting closer, MLS is very difficult division to win. They still don't even have their own stadium ffs.

View attachment 25989
Womens team past few years. Chelsea and Lyon are very strong, its tough to keep your best players in the womens game. Consistently challenging is very impressive.

Girona have been in the La Liga since we took over, the first time in their history and they are a very small team who just struggled in their second season and got relegated.

I am not sure what is half-hearted there.

I note you didn't mention Melbourne City who won the premier league last year? and the Melbourne City Women are the most successful team in Australia since 2015.

How about Montevideo and Yokohama F. Marinos who won the league in 2019?

Mumbai City who won the league last year?
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Is winning the league once in 7 years "very impressive"?
 
PannickAtTheDisco said:
New York City should be the #1 club in the MLS, there's no star branding or real breakthrough in that market and we should have got them a new stadium by now.

Melbourne finally won something after many years of failed attempts, again bigger investment could have brought them a much better squad much quicker.

City women, again a huge opportunity to be the dominant English side like Lyon were in France and instead we gave Chelsea the mantle and have now pissed about in 2nd and let the Rags gain a foothold in the sport rather than be the British side in the competition. We've given Gareth the job instead of demonstrate where we'll take the game by bringing people in far above anything else in this country in terms of coaching etc.

Girona are back unable to get out of the Segunda Division when they should be a mid-table La Liga side signing up the best young European, particularly Spanish talent, that drops outside the branches of Barca, Real and Atletico.

We're doing it on the cheap and we're half baked with intermittent success across the board, as opposed to utter ruthless investment and domination. Then again, the club can't even treat the fans right or buy a striker when promised so it's unsurprising. Lots of talk, little walk.
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Good grief
 
Yesterday I was watching the highlights of the first City vs. United women derby on the Club website. It is striking how the quality of the players improved, yet coaching significantly declined. Cushing was doing a much better job with lower quality players.

The question: do City hierarchy consider women football a matter of PR publicity or a serious business? If it is a serious business, then get the best coach who can work with the gifted players we have now. As mentioned before, Jill Ellis is an excellent coach. Pea Sundhage is another excellent coach with tons of experience, and I won’t be surprised if she quit coaching Brazil to coach City in the WSL. I am sure there are others who are much better fit than limited Taylor.

Also, teams should play according to their skills and abilities, and not according to “a general plan.” Women team should quit playing from the back because current players, despite being skilled and gifted, are not at their best playing from the back. Or, alternatively, ask Guardiola to coach the women team and let us see how it will work. He will gradually replace several players with others who have the skills to play from the back, as he did with the men’s team. The current players and Taylor are not suitable for the “playing from the back” strategy.

On a different note, I agree that it is enough with recruiting American players. Not only the most recent experiment with the 3 players who joined last summer failed, but, in my opinion, this idea was underwhelming starting with the first player, Carli Lloyd. The team was good enough to win the FA cup with or without her. City shouldn’t recruit American players just for PR purposes.
 
I’ve said it many times…
To much playing the ball back. From the forwards, to the midfield to the back four. Houghton & Greenwood seemed to always be in possession of the ball. Too laboured throughout. Shocking performance over both legs.
 
Ive been saying it since Taylor took over...Hes not up to it...Levets hit the nail on the head..Hes trying to play fancy stuff and he hasnt got a clue..Heis taking us backwards...Just consider the talent he had last year and now...Someone is bemoaning missing Kelly and I agree. But really why should one player be the difference???We need a good experienced coach,Taylor is a joke
 
I think it’s obvious that Taylor was an in house appointment. He’s been coaching in the club since 2011 so I guess it made sense at the time. I’m not sure this ethos of having coaches who have attachments to the club has worked in this instance though.

I never particularly liked the idea that it should be a closed club. While the relationship may work well between management/board, you ultimately end up with a smaller pool of talent to work with. Just look at Solskjaer and United. The manager is the only thing that stops them from progressing.

I don’t have a gripe with the appointment of Taylor, but I do think he should have been Cushing’s assistant before taking over or have some prior experience in the women’s game.
 
bigalfromeccles said:
Ive been saying it since Taylor took over...Hes not up to it...Levets hit the nail on the head..Hes trying to play fancy stuff and he hasnt got a clue..Heis taking us backwards...Just consider the talent he had last year and now...Someone is bemoaning missing Kelly and I agree. But really why should one player be the difference???We need a good experienced coach,Taylor is a joke
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That's what we didn't do last night, it was all get the ball wide and ping in endless crosses that we never looked like getting on the end of. Where were the little combinations around the edge of the area to create shooting opportunities, we're more than capable of doing that? The only clear cut chances we had came from a defensive howler and some good skill from Raso, who was immediately rewarded by Taylor subbing her.

Sure, we missed Kelly badly and also Kiera Walsh's control in centre midfield but we should still have been too good for them over two legs with the players available. The manager takes 100% of the blame for that result.
 
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
Two mediocre performances over both legs. We had enough opportunities to win the game tonight but, unlike the EFC game, they wouldn't go in. We hit the top of the bar and put a couple acrobatically wide and the gift of a chance, laid on by Real, when we had two players and an open net, was passed out of danger by our own!!

I thought that Real were tactically and technically superior, and probably over the two legs deserved the tie. They pressed us mercilessly after the goal, but we never made any attempt to close them down in the first half and just let them bring the ball to the halfway line. And how many passes did we make straight to a Real player?

And we had another weirdo with a whistle. It wasn't that some of the decisions were bizarre, they were outrageous. If she is an example of the cream of European women refs, and Uefa's elite, then the game is in a sorry state. Was Lauren Hemp booked for diving or mouthing off at the ref. From where I was she was sandwiched between two defenders.
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Agree with you here, I too thought over both legs they were the better team. Last night they pressed us constantly and whilst we had a lot of possession it was mostly in the middle third of the pitch. They had their chance and took it and we didn't take ours. I can only remember one shot on target which is a poor return. Thought some of the substitutions were a little odd, esp Raso going off. Hemp must have been booked for calling the ref something unpleasant, I thought she was going to belt someone because it looked a foul to me.
 
It was a disappointing performance, an awful lot of stray passes in the middle of the field. Passes out to Hemp were straight at her as she was stood looking towards our own goal so she had to turn and then run by which time she was surrounded. Even when we had the chance of a break we slowed the play right down allowing them to mark up. They got back to defend very quickly. They never stopped working hard. To their credit even in the dying seconds of extra time when they had a corner they didn't try to see out time and hold the ball there they went looking for another goal. On a side note my mood didn't improve when I got to Piccadilly station and had to wait 35 mins for a tram to Bury. Metrolink's customer service rivals City's recent attempts for being the world's worst.
 
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