United Thread - 2021/22

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alexmcity said:
When asked about Maguire, Pep didn't deny we wanted him, he said we couldn't afford him. Any source related to City would tell you we were interested, but not at 80m. Find one that said at the time we had no interest in Maguire. Btw, he was good for England just 3-4 months ago. He isn't Dias, but he isn't/wasn't bad either.
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He’s never a Pep player. His first touch is worse than Dzeko’s.

So if we don’t hear from someone that we’re not interested, then we must be interested … interesting concept.

IMHO … not even Pep could turn Maguire in to a first team squad member.
 
the blue panther said:
Spare a thought for poor Jadon Sancho - signed for an absolute King's ransom - and thanks for the commission, btw - but despite a 5-0 hammering at home, can't get on the pitch. Probably not selected because he doesn't press or track back enough when out of possession - oh; wait a minute.........
:-)
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Signed for a King’s ransom? Are you sure? If that was the case then it would be repeated ad nauseum i
hammocity said:
The football show on Sky lead with:

Only once have Manchester United lost by a bigger margin to their main rivals and that was in 1895

Technically correct but no mention of the matches that equalled the Dippers win.
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We were their biggest rivals for most of that period. Anyone who doesn’t know that knows fuck all about football history.
 
About that squad, why are pundits so sure they should be title challengers?

they have a good attack (but even then not THAT amazing—but yes hood) but look what’s behind them and look at the bench.

A basic midfield, Maguire is limited or needs a proper partner and is a terrible choice of captain, Shaw would only work with a forward on his side with better work rate, Wan Bissaka is limited (he’d be very good for a club like Crystal Pakace actually), etc.

But even granting them a decent XI, the squad is not very good is it? They’re level is in the chasing pack. I honestly don’t think they are significantly better than Leicester or West Ham.

i don’t think they are better overall than the Chelsea team Lampard was managing before Tuchel came in.

and sure they can get Conte or Zidane but the new coach would need the authority to bench Ronaldo or Maguire when he thinks it’s best and to make some of his own signings. Ole is not good and will be the fall guy, but yea I’m a way they might as well wait and figure what they want from their overall setup (ofcourse I selfishly hope it NEVER clicks!).

unrelated question—why did they sign Sancho?? It’s not even about whether he is good but I’m thinking of whether they needed him.
 
Protein Junkie said:
Totally agree. Greek and Greggs positioning and lack of communication was like prime Laurel and Hardy.
Add to that the complete lack of support from Saint Marcus on the left and the picture is complete.
The way they played yesterday was complete arrogance for me. Playing that way against Salah is ripe for a battering.
They should have gone One up but Bruno Mars did one of his NASA specials.
Why wasn’t Ronaldo and Fred red carded ?
Fecking great though.
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Fucking Bruno Mars.......;) ;)
 
mcrpogue said:
I thought that about October. It hard for us to take the results like happened in midweek but we know it is for the greater good. Ole cannot last November, I'll be amazed if he's in situ for the derby.
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What baffled me was, his side was 4/0 down, they’ve just had a player sent off and he brings on a striker ffs
 
In a wee bar in Rhodes and hanging on the wall by the entrance was a rag scarf,I said to the owner is that the same as moving the dying patient to the bed nearest the ward door,despite the obvious lannguage barrier he had a good laugh.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
He’s not a plastic Rag, he’s an actor playing the part of a United fan online for money. Mark Goldbridge isn’t even his name.
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All true. I know his father in law. He stopped doing his previous job (something legal, I think) to do this full time. His father in law, a wonderful fella, is totally bemused by it all.
 
I have one particular rag mate who for most of ny life has taken the piss out of City. Some quite nasty and arrogant stuff over the years. Of course the last 10 years he has had plenty in return. Now he doesn't answer my texts, seems to have given up, he had a brief revival during Ffp, but now he has disappeared, Sent hin a few last night and this morning.

Don't think he has kept the faith, mard sod.
 
DMA's said:
Pretty sure pep has a much better record at old Trafford than mancini did. We also lost to United fairly frequently under Mancini (including 3 last minute defeats) so I don’t know why this myth that pep doesn’t get the derby like Mancini did comes from tbh. The only time you could perhaps lay the blame at peps door was the 3 2 defeat at home where a win would have won the title. That day he rested a lot of starters but we should have been out of sight at half time poor finishing and bad referring cost us that day not pep Imo.

The way we play was perfect for united, they were most effective when they could sit deep and counter with pace but with the arrival of ronaldo they can no longer do this so I expect us to beat them fairly comfortably in a few weeks assuming ronaldo starts.
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You can also add to that the 1-0 League Cup defeat at Old Toilet. 8000 blues there and a rag team there for the taking. To add insult to injury they went on to win the cup. A carbuncle on the face of the greatest reign in our club’s history. Oh Pep, please put these to the sword this time.
 
DMA's said:
Pretty sure pep has a much better record at old Trafford than mancini did. We also lost to United fairly frequently under Mancini (including 3 last minute defeats) so I don’t know why this myth that pep doesn’t get the derby like Mancini did comes from tbh. The only time you could perhaps lay the blame at peps door was the 3 2 defeat at home where a win would have won the title. That day he rested a lot of starters but we should have been out of sight at half time poor finishing and bad referring cost us that day not pep Imo.

The way we play was perfect for united, they were most effective when they could sit deep and counter with pace but with the arrival of ronaldo they can no longer do this so I expect us to beat them fairly comfortably in a few weeks assuming ronaldo starts.
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Mancini's record against United in derbies was P12, W5, D1, L6. Pep's is P14, W6, D2, L6.

Basically the same. Although in Mancini's time United were either better than us or level with us, whereas under Pep United have been either slightly worse or far worse than us and therefore the excuses don't really wash the same way.
 
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