Joey Barton

You'd think mate but I haven't, nor seen the film! I seem to recall Lord of the flies and some Orwell for my O-levels but not this one. I really ought to expand my horizons.
Gatsby's a great one to start with because it's only about 150 pages, you can read the whole thing in a few hours.
 
Do you seriously believe he meant to upset the Jewish community with his words?
Too many folk waiting to appear be outraged in the modern world,
I very much doubt he did but he does have form for seriously racist behaviour. It's a good job for him that the full version of the events that led to him getting involved in that fracas in Thailand and sent home never came out at the time.
 
I personally think he's tried to use a "clever" word and got it hopelessly wrong. Not in respect of offending anyone other than scholars of the English language. It's using the word in completely the wrong context.

Incidentally I am more offended that the BBC chose to inform everyone that he referenced THE holocaust and then proceeded to quote him which clearly states his reference to A holocaust.

I think he's an articulate fool, amongst other far worse traits but in this instance I think he's being overly pilloried for being dumb.
 
I personally think he's tried to use a "clever" word and got it hopelessly wrong. Not in respect of offending anyone other than scholars of the English language. It's using the word in completely the wrong context.

Incidentally I am more offended that the BBC chose to inform everyone that he referenced THE holocaust and then proceeded to quote him which clearly states his reference to A holocaust.

I think he's an articulate fool, amongst other far worse traits but in this instance I think he's being overly pilloried for being dumb.
He certainly comes across as a blatherskite with a penchant for coprolalia.
 
He certainly comes across as a blatherskite with a penchant for coprolalia.
Interesting. I hadn't heard either word but I knew what the first one meant.

The second, well I assumed it meant havering shite, as in coprolites, but it just means foul language. I liked the fact that Google says

Coprolalia
  1. the involuntary and repetitive use of obscene language, as a symptom of mental illness or organic brain disease."
 
Interesting. I hadn't heard either word but I knew what the first one meant.

The second, well I assumed it meant havering shite, as in coprolites, but it just means foul language. I liked the fact that Google says

Coprolalia
  1. the involuntary and repetitive use of obscene language, as a symptom of mental illness or organic brain disease."
Maybe I was being a bit harsh and dunandunating too much!
 
I mean, there are a few phrases and words you’re best avoiding in football and this probably would be one. Even in the right context, which I’m struggling to think of many instances, you should be able to articulate your meaning with something less provocative but hey ho. Joey never did have the smarts he has somehow come to believe he has.
It doesn’t offend me personally and he’s obviously entitled to say what he wants but it smacks of very little self awareness.
Anyway, he’s a well known dickhead so another example of dickheadness won’t matter too much.
 
I mean, there are a few phrases and words you’re best avoiding in football and this probably would be one. Even in the right context, which I’m struggling to think of many instances, you should be able to articulate your meaning with something less provocative but hey ho. Joey never did have the smarts he has somehow come to believe he has.
It doesn’t offend me personally and he’s obviously entitled to say what he wants but it smacks of very little self awareness.
Anyway, he’s a well known dickhead so another example of dickheadness won’t matter too much.
I think it should be common knowledge to most to avoid using the word except in the context of the holocaust itself.

As you say; he's a dickhead.
 
Interesting. I hadn't heard either word but I knew what the first one meant.

The second, well I assumed it meant havering shite, as in coprolites, but it just means foul language. I liked the fact that Google says

Coprolalia
  1. the involuntary and repetitive use of obscene language, as a symptom of mental illness or organic brain disease."
Ha that is me , my brain injury was not organic though , head meet tree !
 
Do you seriously believe he meant to upset the Jewish community with his words?
Too many folk waiting to appear be outraged in the modern world,
Did I mention the Jewish community?
I was relying to the point about the word being in use before 1940s and that even in its literal meaning it was a misuse by Barton
 

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