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Fode N The Hole said:
1. Her racist statements in public and private. And previously using dog whistle language like "anglo-saxon culture".

You should be above this Dax, the fact that you have chosen to jump in the gutter alongside the crazies only says how little self-respect you have.
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Sorry Fode I'm not the type to get bullied into falling in line with whatever the prevailing orthodoxy is... Be that here or anywhere else.

While you have no duty to provide evidence of any claims you make. I'm generally only interested in the facts upon which you've reached your conclusions. So I can make my own conclusion.

i generally find claims like "X made a racist comment/behavior" to be conclusory and generally useless. Tell me what they said or did and in what context and I'll decide if I deem it racist/sexist/ homophobic or whatnot.

I don't care how shitty you think Boebart is. In each instance, the facts of her claims is what matters to me, not yours or anyone else's conclusions about them.

NOr am I particularly interested in your conclusions about me, but rather the facts upon which you reached that conclusion.

In this I'm consistent.
 
Fode N The Hole said:
No because he already knew what he was going to say before he bothered to do any reading. He has made a career out of reflecting conservative thought back at arseholes who will buy a book to read something they want to hear.

If you notice I actually complimented TS on his "talented sophistry" and insulted the idealogy.
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That's not a compliment.

That said, you sound like someone who read a critique of Sowell's point, rather than the point itself.

Your consistent need to insult reflects poorly on you. It suggest you'd rather bully than win on the merit or convince others with facts and reason

Anyway, we can have a separate discussion about Sowell's views on guns.
 
Dax777 said:
Sorry Fode I'm not the type to get bullied into falling in line with whatever the prevailing orthodoxy is... Be that here or anywhere else.

While you have no duty to provide evidence of any claims you make. I'm generally only interested in the facts upon which you've reached your conclusions. So I can make my own conclusion.

i generally find claims like "X made a racist comment/behavior" to be conclusory and generally useless. Tell me what they said or did and in what context and I'll decide if I deem it racist/sexist/ homophobic or whatnot.

I don't care how shitty you think Boebart is. In each instance, the facts of her claims is what matters to me, not yours or anyone else's conclusions about them.

NOr am I particularly interested in your conclusions about me, but rather the facts upon which you reached that conclusion.

In this I'm consistent.
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Racist video clips which have been posted above "jihad squad".

Here is another. I haven't bothered to provide citations because I'm not fussed about getting into a lengthy discussion over it, there isn't much point arguing about a racist hiding in plain sight.


www.motherjones.com

Republicans, saying the quiet part loud, discuss plans for "Anglo-Saxon" traditions caucus

Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene, Paul Gosar, and Matt Gaetz lead the charge.
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Dax777 said:
That's not a compliment.

That said, you sound like someone who read a critique of Sowell's point, rather than the point itself.

Your consistent need to insult reflects poorly on you. It suggest you'd rather bully than win on the merit or convince others with facts and reason

Anyway, we can have a separate discussion about Sowell's views on guns.
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No I've read and listened to him several times, that's why I can read your posts and know that you are heavily influenced by his carefully constructed sophistry.

It’s a skill to construct sophistry and fool people, in that sense it is a compliment.

If you think I'm bullying you, you can report me to a moderator, or maybe have a parent or guardian hold your hand whilst you read my posts. :)
 
Fode N The Hole said:
No I've read and listened to him several times, that's why I can read your posts and know that you are heavily influenced by his carefully constructed sophistry.
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Lol..I find

Fode N The Hole said:
It’s a skill to construct sophistry and fool people, in that sense it is a compliment.
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One can say the same of your writing style. Less sophistry and more slurring, and insulting. It's a familiar style.

Fode N The Hole said:
If you think I'm bullying you, you can report me to a moderator, or maybe have a parent or guardian hold your hand whilst you read my posts. :)
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Oh no! Far from it. I'm hardly the type that can be bullied. I was simply analyzing your style of argument..
 
Dax777 said:
Lol..I find


One can say the same of your writing style. Less sophistry and more slurring, and insulting. It's a familiar style.


Oh no! Far from it. I'm hardly the type that can be bullied. I was simply analyzing your style of argument..
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We are not going to be having an argument or discussion because it would be a waste of my time entering into conversation with you.

If I wanted to read replies of illogical neo-conservative babble I'd go and post on 4chan and 8chan.

What next for discussion... ?

Is Donald Trump a pervert?

Is a Boris Johnson an adulterer and a scoundrel?

Was Jeffrey Epstein a paedophile or just an ephebophile?

These are questions most people with sense can draw straight-forward conclusions on. Just as most people can draw their own conclusions about Boebert and MTG.
 
Dax777 said:
Sorry Fode I'm not the type to get bullied into falling in line with whatever the prevailing orthodoxy is... Be that here or anywhere else.

While you have no duty to provide evidence of any claims you make. I'm generally only interested in the facts upon which you've reached your conclusions. So I can make my own conclusion.

i generally find claims like "X made a racist comment/behavior" to be conclusory and generally useless. Tell me what they said or did and in what context and I'll decide if I deem it racist/sexist/ homophobic or whatnot.

I don't care how shitty you think Boebart is. In each instance, the facts of her claims is what matters to me, not yours or anyone else's conclusions about them.

NOr am I particularly interested in your conclusions about me, but rather the facts upon which you reached that conclusion.

In this I'm consistent.
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Normally I wouldn't bother, and I certainly know we won't ever agree on politics, but I have to point out that this is the funniest goddamn show of false manhood I've seen in quite awhile on these threads.

"Bullied." LOL.

"Not particularly interested in your conclusions about me." Are you kidding? Come on.

Here's a good thing about logical, thoughtful and open-minded people: sometimes the prevailing orthodoxy IS correct and logical, and thoughtful and open-minded people manage to figure this out somehow without needing to think "Now wait a minute: if I follow conventional wisdom, people might think I'm weak or stupid. So I better resist so they think I'm strong and smart. Otherwise, they'll think they can BULLY ME."

It's like Kylo Ren battling what's-her-name in that mind control scene. "Must . . . resist . . . calling . . . Boebert . . . racist . . . or . . . they'll . . . think . . . I'm . . . going . . . soft. Must . . . point out . . . Ilhan's . . . anti-semitism . . . aaarrrggghhh. "

Next, you aren't interested in our conclusions about you? Sure bud. That's why you wrote that whole screed -- because you need to make sure we all know about your impeccable, iron-clad, logical process to forming your opinion -- because ya don't care what we think. Uh huh. Well, you haven't exactly led us to the conclusion that you have much self-awareness, that's for sure.

Anyhow I'm not going to bully you -- you're harmless (and I actually appreciate that -- that little twunt you got in a fight with the other day is decidedly not harmless) so no worries. But I do hope you eventually recognize that we are all here communicating for free because we DO care what others conclude about us, and/or because we want to gain insight about what others think about a wide variety of things. You're here for one or both of those reasons, despite your protestations. Cheers.

PS. Rey. It was Rey.
 
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Don't if anyone has seen this but here's Farage licking Trumps butt

Switched off after about 2 minutes wanging on about having the election stolen from him and Farage lapping it up with glee. If you don't watch it (I wouldn't blame you its the same time old act from both parties)
Anyway watch the smirk on Farage's face 8 minutes in when he suggests Trump running in 2024.
Had to switch off watching Farage taking over from the pillow guy's job of choking on Trump's very small one.
 
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Mike D said:
Don't if anyone has seen this but here's Farage licking Trumps butt

Switched off after about 2 minutes wanging on about having the election stolen from him and Farage lapping it up with glee. If you don't watch it (I wouldn't blame you its the same time old act from both parties)
Anyway watch the smirk on Farage's face 8 minutes in when he suggests Trump running in 2024.
Had to switch off watching Farage taking over from the pillow guy's job of choking on Trump's very small one.
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The cringiest sycophantcy you are ever likely to see, Froggy is looking at him as if he envies Stormy Daniel's because Big Donald got undressed and made an indecent proposal.

It’s like Fred Trump hired Donald a friend and he never grew out of it.

The big interview that Froggy has managed to get himself a free jolly in Florida for, and yet they don't even have 100K views yet.
 
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You know exactly what it refers to.



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I wonder if they will.

There's a lot of states who elected Biden who're going to suddenly find abortion made illegal or effectively illegal.

There has to be a point where the Democrats realise this is just the first step in 40 year judicial careers for Kavanaugh, Gorsuch and ACB. As Torres has pointed out, they and their supporters find contraception to be murder just as much as abortion, and god knows where they'll go after that in their campaign to bring the country back to 1950.
 
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