Dusan Vlahovic | Signed for Juventus

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He’s ready for any club IMO Perfect age, physicality, great technique. Surely he will improve, but I don’t see why top clubs need to wait for his fee to get even higher before getting him. Is he any less ready than Ferran playing for Valencia was before coming here? I would say definitely not
They said the same about Jovic after his break out season, moved to Madrid and this price is almost double that. I'd consider it a gamble till he puts up these numbers again. He probably could here, but its still 'in the maybe he' could brakcet for me.

Haaland for comparison has put up the same numbers since Molde, the consistancy of over preformance is there over Vlahovic.

(if that makes sense, ive started waffling)
 
They said the same about Jovic after his break out season, moved to Madrid and this price is almost double that. I'd consider it a gamble till he puts up these numbers again. He probably could here, but its still 'in the maybe he' could brakcet for me.
You need to put together a number of years from Jovic before joining Madrid to get to the number of goals Vlahovic scored this year alone. And I would add he wasn’t delivering anywhere near the same level of performance. When Jovic moved to Madrid, the expectations were lesser as well. The only thing you can bring up against him is lack of UCL experience, but then again, we signed Torres with the same situation. As far as I’m concerned, it would be a good investment. Of course Haaland has to be the top target, but after him, who has the age, potential, numbers and performances of Vlahovic currently? We’ve made riskier investments before
 
They said the same about Jovic after his break out season, moved to Madrid and this price is almost double that. I'd consider it a gamble till he puts up these numbers again. He probably could here, but its still 'in the maybe he' could brakcet for me.

Haaland for comparison has put up the same numbers since Molde, the consistancy of over preformance is there over Vlahovic.

(if that makes sense, ive started waffling)

Vlahovic

21/22 season so far. Getting better as well.

17 goals , two assists

20/21 season first season as a starter I would say this is his breakout season. where clubs took notice.

21 goals, 2 assists

19/20 was on the bench most of the season.

9 goals 2 assists
 
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I would buy this lad in January, that does not mean we can not buy Haaland when his buy out clause kicks in, we can have 3 strikers we can play with 2 up front, we also can not get gazumped and left with nowt already having a striker, but going back to this lad i recon we can get him for £55 million regardless what the press say, he is not the finished article so he can grow, he is not on big wages and most of all he will not come with a big time attitude where if he is fit he plays, we know our first team we just need a plan b for the Palaces/Southampton's of this world.
 
I don't personally see Vlahovic as a gamble as some might, I think he is ready for the step up to an elite level team.

My only worry is his speed, Haaland is perhaps better suited for us in that he is definitely quicker, but I don't think Vlahovic's style relies on it, nor would we probably ask that of him. If Pep was looking at Harry Kane then clearly speed is far from one of the attributes he is looking for in a 9.

But as a 2nd choice, Vlahovic is a great option and much cheaper for City, so I can see them liking the financials of it.

Edit: Seeing more clips of him now and I just realized he reminds alot of Liam Delap in how he moves on the pitch and his play style.
 
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I think one thing we need to bear in mind is this..we are a changed team since Sergio was in his prime.

2014-15 Sergio scored 26, Silva 12, Toure 10, next was Lampard with 6.
2015-16, Sergio 24, Iheanacho 8, KDB 6.
2016-17, Sergio 20, Sterling 7, Jesus 7.
Jump to 2019-20, Sergio 16, sterling 20, Jesus 14, KDB 13, Mahrez 11.

My point is that we don't need a replacement for the type of player that Sergio was because we don't play that way anymore. Just look at the game against Leeds. If a prime Sergio had been on the field how many would he have scored ? We have (proven) goalscorers all through the team. Although Vlahovic is not comparable to Sergio, I think (personal opinion here ) that he would be a good fit for the way we play now.
 
I think one thing we need to bear in mind is this..we are a changed team since Sergio was in his prime.

2014-15 Sergio scored 26, Silva 12, Toure 10, next was Lampard with 6.
2015-16, Sergio 24, Iheanacho 8, KDB 6.
2016-17, Sergio 20, Sterling 7, Jesus 7.
Jump to 2019-20, Sergio 16, sterling 20, Jesus 14, KDB 13, Mahrez 11.

My point is that we don't need a replacement for the type of player that Sergio was because we don't play that way anymore. Just look at the game against Leeds. If a prime Sergio had been on the field how many would he have scored ? We have (proven) goalscorers all through the team. Although Vlahovic is not comparable to Sergio, I think (personal opinion here ) that he would be a good fit for the way we play now.

The thing for me is, if a prime Sergio was on the pitch we'd be set up differently so as to maximize the opportunities he would get to shoot. Pep is a philosopher but he's not a zealot. He adapts. Right now the threat is spread around the team. If we were to sign Haaland I'm sure Pep would restructure somewhat to maximize his opportunities because he's a more lethal finisher.
 
The thing for me is, if a prime Sergio was on the pitch we'd be set up differently so as to maximize the opportunities he would get to shoot. Pep is a philosopher but he's not a zealot. He adapts. Right now the threat is spread around the team. If we were to sign Haaland I'm sure Pep would restructure somewhat to maximize his opportunities because he's a more lethal finisher.
That is a completely valid point, but would we want to do that ? Is it wise to restructure the whole way a team plays to rely one one player to score ?
Again, just my opinion, but I think we need someone to fit in, not build a whole approach round...
 
Is it wise to restructure the whole way a team plays to rely one one player to score ?
This is absolutely not how it would work. Obviously. Pep didn’t build Bayern around Lewandowski despite the extraordinary number of goals he had every season
 
You need to put together a number of years from Jovic before joining Madrid to get to the number of goals Vlahovic scored this year alone. And I would add he wasn’t delivering anywhere near the same level of performance. When Jovic moved to Madrid, the expectations were lesser as well. The only thing you can bring up against him is lack of UCL experience, but then again, we signed Torres with the same situation. As far as I’m concerned, it would be a good investment. Of course Haaland has to be the top target, but after him, who has the age, potential, numbers and performances of Vlahovic currently? We’ve made riskier investments before
He was putting up the expected numbers till the over-performance season, same as Vlahovic is at so far in his career.

I think he'll be a good striker, but not tier 1.
 
He was putting up the expected numbers till the over-performance season, same as Vlahovic is at so far in his career.

I think he'll be a good striker, but not tier 1.
It is an almost guarantee that anyone who joins this City team with Pep as manager is going to go up a few levels. So what we need to look at is the actual fundamentals of his game and his ability, he can only score against who hes playing against.

I think on paper this signing makes 10x more sense then Haaland and I fully expect it is the option we go down. I am sure Txiki and the others are chasing down the avenues for Haaland because it would be foolish not to but I cant help but feel its going to end up like others we have missed in the past e.g. Sanchez, Jorginho and so forth.

Players who piss about and dont make City their number one rarely get signed, and that is something I fully back the club on.
 
That is a completely valid point, but would we want to do that ? Is it wise to restructure the whole way a team plays to rely one one player to score ?
Again, just my opinion, but I think we need someone to fit in, not build a whole approach round...
Yeah I agree here.

While we want a striker who can score goals, we don't want to be dependent on them, you see the problem that can cause when you rely on someone who might have off days.

That being said, if Haaland can adapt to us, improve playmaking, buildup, ball control and dribbling, passing, all things he is decent at but not elite like scoring, then he surpasses any of our F9 options.

He only needs to improve a little in any of those areas for him to adapt to us. If he stays the same and requires us to build around him, then I don't think we are a better team than now, probably worse.

You can see Ferran in his early days, we THINK he can be a good striker because of his finishing, but he goes missing in games for so long and was useless in buildup so often. These were all things we forgave because he could finish, but were hoping down the line he would improve.

Haaland is a level further along than Ferran, but still needs just one more step with us that I hope he can make to make us unstoppable.
 
I think on paper this signing makes 10x more sense then Haaland and I fully expect it is the option we go down. I am sure Txiki and the others are chasing down the avenues for Haaland because it would be foolish not to but I cant help but feel its going to end up like others we have missed in the past e.g. Sanchez, Jorginho and so forth.

Players who piss about and dont make City their number one rarely get signed, and that is something I fully back the club on.
And you know that Vlahovic has made us his number one?! Or that Haaland hasn’t?
 
And you know that Vlahovic has made us his number one?! Or that Haaland hasn’t?
If we are not the first choice for Vlahovic, then he doesn't want signing either. His other options look like Arsenal and the spuds at the minute, if he can say with a straight face he would rather go there then good luck to the lad.

I don't know what Haaland is thinking, however he certainly has a lot more appealing options than Vlahovic does.

As I said, Vlahovic seems a lot more like someone City would sign and seemingly could be done in Jan. Haaland doesn't look like hes going anywhere in Jan and do City want to wait, not sure.
 
If we are not the first choice for Vlahovic, then he doesn't want signing either. His other options look like Arsenal and the spuds at the minute, if he can say with a straight face he would rather go there then good luck to the lad.

I don't know what Haaland is thinking, however he certainly has a lot more appealing options than Vlahovic does.

As I said, Vlahovic seems a lot more like someone City would sign and seemingly could be done in Jan. Haaland doesn't look like hes going anywhere in Jan and do City want to wait, not sure.
The Fiorentina president mentioned very recently that “Juventus and Arsenal” should talk to the club instead of the player’s agent if they’re really interested. So it would appear Juventus is in.
What I don’t understand is the mentality of “Haaland has more appealing options” as if we don’t offer more than anyone. We are the top team currently in the most competitive and richest league in the world, with the manager that every player wants to work with, were UCL finalists last season, and we have money. I wish this reality catches up with the mentality around here soon, because some think we’re underdogs when we’re not
 
The Fiorentina president mentioned very recently that “Juventus and Arsenal” should talk to the club instead of the player’s agent if they’re really interested. So it would appear Juventus is in.
What I don’t understand is the mentality of “Haaland has more appealing options” as if we don’t offer more than anyone. We are the top team currently in the most competitive and richest league in the world, with the manager that every player wants to work with, were UCL finalists last season, and we have money. I wish this reality catches up with the mentality around here soon, because some think we’re underdogs when we’re not
Juventus are a graveyard of strikers so I would hope he is smarter than that but perhaps he likes Italy and wants to just stay there.

Haaland has more appealing options than Vlahovic, in the sense that I am sure Madrid and PSG would be interested in him whereas Vlahovic has Arsenal and Spuds after him. Should have made that clearer....

I don't think we are underdogs at all. City do have everything any footballer could ever want but its not the first time we have lost out on a player and it wont be the last. Not everything is as plain as it seems.
 
If we are not the first choice for Vlahovic, then he doesn't want signing either. His other options look like Arsenal and the spuds at the minute, if he can say with a straight face he would rather go there then good luck to the lad.

I don't know what Haaland is thinking, however he certainly has a lot more appealing options than Vlahovic does.

As I said, Vlahovic seems a lot more like someone City would sign and seemingly could be done in Jan. Haaland doesn't look like hes going anywhere in Jan and do City want to wait, not sure.

Both Vlahovic and Haaland could easily end up in Madrid.

Not at the same club obviously. Both are good options for strikers at their levels.
 
The Fiorentina president mentioned very recently that “Juventus and Arsenal” should talk to the club instead of the player’s agent if they’re really interested. So it would appear Juventus is in.
What I don’t understand is the mentality of “Haaland has more appealing options” as if we don’t offer more than anyone. We are the top team currently in the most competitive and richest league in the world, with the manager that every player wants to work with, were UCL finalists last season, and we have money. I wish this reality catches up with the mentality around here soon, because some think we’re underdogs when we’re not

Juventus aren't in, they have not got the money for a January transfer that big. They are after the sassuolo striker/martial

Vlahovic to Juve is complex, so the plan B is Scamacca & Martial. Sassuolo don’t want to sell Scamacca in the winter, they will talk in the summer. Juve like Martial. It won’t be a surprise that both arrive at Juve, Scamacca in the summer & Martial in January. (
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Juventus aren't in, they have not got the money for a January transfer that big. They are after the sassulo striker/martial

Vlahovic to Juve is complex, so the plan B is Scamacca & Martial. Sassuolo don’t want to sell Scamacca in the winter, they will talk in the summer. Juve like Martial. It won’t be a surprise that both arrive at Juve, Scamacca in the summer & Martial in January. (
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I was just saying the Fiorentina president publicly told Juventus to stop talking to the player’s agent and talk to them directly. This was a week or two ago. So they are talking about it apparently.
Someone here brought the news that Scamacca is top of the list as Vlahovic replacement for Fiorentina
 
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