Dusan Vlahovic | Signed for Juventus

[bobom]

Need to get this done. If we are ever to play with strikers again, we need at least 2 (plus a backup like Delap), because Pep's whole modus operandi is based on competition within the squad for positions. It would be totally uncharacteristic for City to buy just Vlahovic or Haaland or anyone else, who would then be our only serious option if we wanted to play a formation with a striker. That's not healthy in terms of squad morale, motivation etc. Much better to get a couple of players who can push each other.

So get an offer in on Vlahovic, and then see what can be done about Haaland.

 

[blueparrot]

Need to get this done. If we are ever to play with strikers again, we need at least 2 (plus a backup like Delap), because Pep's whole modus operandi is based on competition within the squad for positions. It would be totally uncharacteristic for City to buy just Vlahovic or Haaland or anyone else, who would then be our only serious option if we wanted to play a formation with a striker. That's not healthy in terms of squad morale, motivation etc. Much better to get a couple of players who can push each other.

So get an offer in on Vlahovic, and then see what can be done about Haaland.

We will only buy one, if Torres goes we may buy a another forward but it won’t be a conventional centre forward.

 

[Gaz (FMwkdsoul)]

I’m really not sure you can take someones stats at 18/19/20 as a marker for the rest of their career.

if he was 26 and having a 1 off I’d agree with you

Its more the fact no player in world football has kept up those numbers over more than one season, bar Messi & Haaland regardless of age. Remains to be seen if this is a one off or the first of many.

 

[Gumzy97]

Interview he did for Fiorentina, interviewer asks if he is Ibrahimvoic‘s. Heir and does he stay 2 hours after training to practice free kicks. Replied with this you can see why he would work wonders under pep/work in our team has the right work ethic.

”Football today has become a sport where unless you work on yourself and generally on everything, it’s very hard to stay at a certain level and it’s very hard to succeed I think that work according to me is the most important thing in football, of course so is rest, but to work on yourself but to improve yourself each day also not only in training but by watching games by watching your own games, your opponents games there are plenty of ways for you to improve, I stay on after every training session not only for free kicks I stay to work on everything I can and I think that is one of the preconditions for success, so I will continue that way and try to reach the top level and of course what’s most important when one reaches the top level is to stay there.”

Interview asks do you have a special dietary routine.

“We have a life routine that has become a everyday thing go to training , recovery and sleep, certainly it’s the same about the food the diet I follow a certain regimen because like I said football has reached such a level where every tiny detail matters and must be followed through yes I have some certain menus like I said the routine train eat sleep and so on and on because to be at the top level you must be predestined and focused only on what you’re doing.”

 

[JewelZee]

I’m really not sure you can take someones stats at 18/19/20 as a marker for the rest of their career.

if he was 26 and having a 1 off I’d agree with you

I'm sure...you can't...that is absolutely ridiculous...

 

[Deleted member 87819]

Interview he did for Fiorentina, interviewer asks if he is Ibrahimvoic‘s. Heir and does he stay 2 hours after training to practice free kicks. Replied with this you can see why he would work wonders under pep/work in our team has the right work ethic.

”Football today has become a sport where unless you work on yourself and generally on everything, it’s very hard to stay at a certain level and it’s very hard to succeed I think that work according to me is the most important thing in football, of course so is rest, but to work on yourself but to improve yourself each day also not only in training but by watching games by watching your own games, your opponents games there are plenty of ways for you to improve, I stay on after every training session not only for free kicks I stay to work on everything I can and I think that is one of the preconditions for success, so I will continue that way and try to reach the top level and of course what’s most important when one reaches the top level is to stay there.”

Interview asks do you have a special dietary routine.

“We have a life routine that has become a everyday thing go to training , recovery and sleep, certainly it’s the same about the food the diet I follow a certain regimen because like I said football has reached such a level where every tiny detail matters and must be followed through yes I have some certain menus like I said the routine train eat sleep and so on and on because to be at the top level you must be predestined and focused only on what you’re doing.”

You seem a little too taken by all of this. Winning mentality is something all players at the top have. Being early to training, many do and don’t feel the need to tell it around like a trophy — even some pretty mediocre players give their all in hours and training. Good for him that his mind is on the right place, but that’s secondary

 

[Vester]

Vlahovics over performance in stats is quite similar to Dennis from Watford this season. If Watford would have got 6 penalties this season, and Dennis had taken and scored them all, would we consider him as a worthy Aguero replacement?

Vlahovic is of course, in my opinion, a better player than Dennis. I think he would be a good fit for us, fits the mould of players we usually target, and offers something we are currently missing at a reasonable price. He would be a good signing imo. But lets not pretend he is at Haalands level in ability. Signing Vlahovic could be the missing piece of the puzzle, signing Haaland would be a game changer.

 

[birchwoodgingerste]

Interview he did for Fiorentina, interviewer asks if he is Ibrahimvoic‘s. Heir and does he stay 2 hours after training to practice free kicks. Replied with this you can see why he would work wonders under pep/work in our team has the right work ethic.

”Football today has become a sport where unless you work on yourself and generally on everything, it’s very hard to stay at a certain level and it’s very hard to succeed I think that work according to me is the most important thing in football, of course so is rest, but to work on yourself but to improve yourself each day also not only in training but by watching games by watching your own games, your opponents games there are plenty of ways for you to improve, I stay on after every training session not only for free kicks I stay to work on everything I can and I think that is one of the preconditions for success, so I will continue that way and try to reach the top level and of course what’s most important when one reaches the top level is to stay there.”

Interview asks do you have a special dietary routine.

“We have a life routine that has become a everyday thing go to training , recovery and sleep, certainly it’s the same about the food the diet I follow a certain regimen because like I said football has reached such a level where every tiny detail matters and must be followed through yes I have some certain menus like I said the routine train eat sleep and so on and on because to be at the top level you must be predestined and focused only on what you’re doing.”

So hes a donky then !:))

 

[Tangled up in blue.]

This is a tweet I really found interesting having seen a lot of overperforming xG shouts against Vlahohic.
The comparison with Belotti makes me a bit nervous because I do watch a little Seria A because of him and the league is dangerously slow.

We have a decent scouting department so if we eventually go for him, we would be fine because of the chances we create.
I worry about what happens after Pep leaves and we don't have an out of this world striker as we had in Aguero who was unperturbed by who the manager is and just creates goals out of nowhere.

What does xG mean ?

 

[Deleted member 87819]

What does xG mean ?

Expected goals

 

[Gaz (FMwkdsoul)]

What does xG mean ?

Expected Goal. A rating of the chance of a 0-1 scale.

O = Guaranteed Miss
1 = Guaranteed Goal

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

What does xG mean ?

Former gangsta.

 

[Dobsy]

What does xG mean ?

If he's achieving over his xG, the implication is he's having a crazy run of good luck/form that he shouldn't be able to keep up. But it could also mean he's just a very good/efficient finisher who scores a lot of difficult chances.

Remember when Negredo started and had that amazing few months? After his shoulder injury that player never really came back.

 

[Tangled up in blue.]

Expected goals

Thanks Gus

 

[itisrising]

If he's achieving over his xG, the implication is he's having a crazy run of good luck/form that he shouldn't be able to keep up. But it could also mean he's just a very good/efficient finisher who scores a lot of difficult chances.

Remember when Negredo started and had that amazing few months? After his shoulder injury that player never really came back.

I think it's important to marry xG with the general xG of the team he's playing so we can see if he's a player that's not really getting into the best areas or if Fiorentina are just a side that just don't create all that many chances.

Fiorentina's xG is 27
City's is 44

That would indicate that if we would be able to replicate a similar chance creation with a striker, which we did with Kun as a focal point, Vlahovic would improve on his numbers currently by some way.

The thing is, at the price Vlahovic would cost, it's not really the same type of gamble as a Haaland. We'd have to be all in on Haaland and bank on him being a superstar whereas a 60m signing of Vlahovic wouldn't be an all or nothing signing.

 

[ninjamonkey]

Not going to pretend I watch him every week like others do, I've seen bits, looks decent enough, has attributes we could find useful but doesn't seem special, just very good. Wouldn't be against signing him but If we missed out on vlahovic and he went to chelsea/liverpool/United next season, we might look on from time to time and think he could have been useful here but I doubt we would dwell on it and the next vlahovic will already be earmarked.

Can't say the same for Haaland, he's already special and got so much improvement to make. If he rocked up at another English club we would be envious on a weekly basis even if we're still successful. We can't allow that to happen no matter what. We're comfortably best placed of the English clubs to lure him, arguably best suited of any club, we have to be throwing everything in the hat to get him here.

Then once he's here we work on him daily until we convince him to drop his slimy agent and we don't have any of the standard Raiola bullshit in 2 seasons time.

 

[Gaz (FMwkdsoul)]

What does xG mean ?

This is really good breakdown.

What Is Expected Goals (xG)? | Opta Analyst

Expected goals (or xG) measures the quality of a chance by calculating the likelihood it will be scored by using historical shot information.

theanalyst.com

 

[domalino]

What does xG mean ?

This is really good breakdown.

What Is Expected Goals (xG)? | Opta Analyst

Expected goals (or xG) measures the quality of a chance by calculating the likelihood it will be scored by using historical shot information.

theanalyst.com

The short answer is "what % of shots from this spot go in"

 

[Sir Joe Aguero]

Not going to pretend I watch him every week like others do, I've seen bits, looks decent enough, has attributes we could find useful but doesn't seem special, just very good. Wouldn't be against signing him but If we missed out on vlahovic and he went to chelsea/liverpool/United next season, we might look on from time to time and think he could have been useful here but I doubt we would dwell on it and the next vlahovic will already be earmarked.

Can't say the same for Haaland, he's already special and got so much improvement to make. If he rocked up at another English club we would be envious on a weekly basis even if we're still successful. We can't allow that to happen no matter what. We're comfortably best placed of the English clubs to lure him, arguably best suited of any club, we have to be throwing everything in the hat to get him here.

Then once he's here we work on him daily until we convince him to drop his slimy agent and we don't have any of the standard Raiola bullshit in 2 seasons time.

Haaland’s obviously the player everyone wants and is seen as a future Balon d’Or winner, but he’d 2/3 times the cost (factoring in agents fees & his dad) and his wages would be around 400k a week. Plus he’s started getting injuries and isn’t as aerially dominant as you’d expect for a guy his size. Plus, whilst he can score from anywhere, Bundesliga teams give a lot more space to run into (look at Werner for Leipzig vs Chelsea) whereas Vlahovic isn’t reliant on pace and can play against packed defences (which we come up against a lot).

I’d prefer Haaland, obviously, but Vlahovic could be a real quality addition, and the records he’s breaking show that.

 

[Blue Coop]

This is a tweet I really found interesting having seen a lot of overperforming xG shouts against Vlahohic.
The comparison with Belotti makes me a bit nervous because I do watch a little Seria A because of him and the league is dangerously slow.

We have a decent scouting department so if we eventually go for him, we would be fine because of the chances we create.
I worry about what happens after Pep leaves and we don't have an out of this world striker as we had in Aguero who was unperturbed by who the manager is and just creates goals out of nowhere.

Doesn’t exceeding your xG bode well? He’s out scoring what he should be based on the chances created - clinical & efficient. Suggests in a side creating more, he’d score even better? I don’t get it as a reason to be cautious at face value..