Anti Vax Demonstration outside South Stand

How would you people feel about someone not having been jabed because they live in the countryside don't mix with other people except partner never goes in shops or garages,never ever goes on public transport just walks the dog in the open fields away from people.
What is it their partner does?

Do they mix with other people, go in shops and garages, go on public transport, and goes into towns and other busy places?

If so, what if they bring a bad case of Delta home to their unvaccinated partner? They’d just be better off getting the vaccine in case their partner brings it home, wouldn’t they?
 
destroying economy
destroying education
destroying health
destroying employment
destroying any hope of travel
suicide all time high
drug & alcohol addiction all time high
depression all time high
unable to visit loved ones
people with long term illness left untreated

agree or disagree with vaccines, believe or dont believe in how bad the virus is, the balance of how we are reacting to all this has created the above and a lot more. Its a mess !

We have to see common sense. This is the last time i look at this thread, the percentage of Boris's helpers to people that use their own initiative is far to high. Well said " we r the big 4 " many many people see it this way to.
What the fucking hell has boris the bastard johnson got to do with the virus? Johnson is a ****, the (COVID) virus is a bigger ****, your linking of the need to vaccinate our way out of this PANDEMIC to liking johnson is fucking weird
 
Adverse rection reports in the UK 382k.
382,000 out of 131,000,000 vaccine injections given.

That’s only 0.29% of the people who’ve had a Covid jab that have had a reaction to it.

And from December 2020 to September 2021 there were 1,645 people who’d died shortly after having the vaccine. Which is 0.001% of those who’ve had a Covid jab have died soonafter having it.

As opposed to 148,000 people out of 11,800,000 cases who have died from Covid. Which is 1.25% of people who’ve had Covid dying from it.

0.001% v 1.25%
 
Nothing wrong with freedom of speech but I bet if they were NHS staff working 18 hour days with no break in over crowded wards treating all of the covid patients they wouldn’t be anti vax.
I’d like to see how they’d react if they had to lie in one of those ward

Nothing wrong with freedom of speech but I bet if they were NHS staff working 18 hour days with no break in over crowded wards treating all of the covid patients they wouldn’t be anti vax.
I’d like to see how they’d react if they had to lie in one of those wards.
18 hour days? Not clinical staff as that would be dangerous. Maybe the odd occasion, the very odd occasion.
 
A spike in cases? Or a spike in hospitalisation/deaths.

Case numbers are irrelevant and has been since the start of it all. It’s the hospitalisation and onwards figures that matter. Same with any infection/virus.

In the UK it’s something like 48% of covid related hospitalisations are unvaxxed. Given that about 80% of adult population is vaxxed, that’s a very high endorsement that vaccination works to limit that effectively.

Unless you are incapable of basic maths.
replying to self again, sorry.

I posted this back in August: https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/changes-after-jabs.351689/post-14089737 where coincidentally it was also 48% of the people in hospital with covid were unvaxxed.

Given that we've had another 3 months of more adults getting vaxxed since that post, and the percentage of unvaxxed in hospital with covid hasn't decreased at all, then using simple mental maths indicates that it's even more likely that vaxxed people are avoiding hospital compared to unvaxxed, than it was in August.

And that the ever reducing number of un-vaxxed are still going into hospital with covid at an increasingly higher proportionate rate.

Remember this current '48%' is plastered over social media by Anti-vaxers as some sort of 'win', ie 'look, you have less chance of being in hospital with covid when unvaxxed, because 48%<52%' when it's bleeding obvious that the 48% comes from <15% of the adult population, whereas the 52% comes from >85% of the adult population.
 
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times have moved on since pits & wars so i dont see how we compare what is happening now to what happened then.

we are all intelligent, take time out and stop listening to the biased bbc and celebrities paid a fortune or a government that is embarrassing themselves in lies more and more. Do a little bit of research and dont take everything you hear in the media as gospel.

Which medical papers have you been reading for your research? Where have you been studying? Down at the library? A Uni? Have you been speaking to trained medical professionals? I guess you've cross-referenced and made sure its peer-reviewed info and traced the original sources too? Could you share some of your research methods? Fascinated to know!

I'm sure it'll absolutely not be just from anecdotal stories thrown together via Facebook, Youtube and shit-posting forums? Cos everyone knows those places are totally reliable! You're obviously far too smart for that. Anyway, would appreciate if you share some of that research mate. Sure it's gonna be riveting and i'm dead excited to read it! Cheers mate:)
 
Which medical papers have you been reading for your research? Where have you been studying? Down at the library? A Uni? Have you been speaking to trained medical professionals? I guess you've cross-referenced and made sure its peer-reviewed info and traced the original sources too? Could you share some of your research methods? Fascinated to know!

I'm sure it'll absolutely not be just from anecdotal stories thrown together via Facebook, Youtube and shit-posting forums? Cos everyone knows those places are totally reliable! You're obviously far too smart for that. Anyway, would appreciate if you share some of that research mate. Sure it's gonna be riveting and i'm dead excited to read it! Cheers mate:)
Twitter, it restricts them to 280 characters at a time (including emojis) which makes it an easier read.
 
382,000 out of 131,000,000 vaccine injections given.

That’s only 0.29% of the people who’ve had a Covid jab that have had a reaction to it.

And from December 2020 to September 2021 there were 1,645 people who’d died shortly after having the vaccine. Which is 0.001% of those who’ve had a Covid jab have died soonafter having it.

As opposed to 148,000 people out of 11,800,000 cases who have died from Covid. Which is 1.25% of people who’ve had Covid dying from it.

0.001% v 1.25%

Nobody asked me if I had a reaction to it although I had a mild reaction much better than dying alone on a Covid ward or at home.

If they haven't asked me then who else didn't they ask? It looks like an arbitrary figure plucked out of the ether that the anti vaxers will feed off to validate their narrative.

How many people have died of the vaccine?
How many people have needed intervention because of the vaccine?
How many people have updated their phones to 5G and are now disappointed with the signal boost they have been promised?
 
Nobody asked me if I had a reaction to it although I had a mild reaction much better than dying alone on a Covid ward or at home.

If they haven't asked me then who else didn't they ask? It looks like an arbitrary figure plucked out of the ether that the anti vaxers will feed off to validate their narrative.

How many people have died of the vaccine?
How many people have needed intervention because of the vaccine?
How many people have updated their phones to 5G and are now disappointed with the signal boost they have been promised?
Since I had the vaccine my phone signal has been fantastic
 
Nobody asked me if I had a reaction to it although I had a mild reaction much better than dying alone on a Covid ward or at home.

If they haven't asked me then who else didn't they ask? It looks like an arbitrary figure plucked out of the ether that the anti vaxers will feed off to validate their narrative.

How many people have died of the vaccine?
How many people have needed intervention because of the vaccine?
How many people have updated their phones to 5G and are now disappointed with the signal boost they have been promised?
They do ask you to report any reactions you may have to the vaccine. It's on the card you are given:

Yellow Card Scheme at: coronavirus-yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk

Not many people bother.
 
They do ask you to report any reactions you may have to the vaccine. It's on the card you are given:

Yellow Card Scheme at: coronavirus-yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk

Not many people bother.

A lot of people get reactions to vaccines, these reactions usually last a day and doesn't involve waking up and finding you've grown a new head.

Anti-vaxers using these stats as evidence is the problem.
 
Since I had the vaccine my phone signal has been fantastic
The same here. I got the 2nd jab in May and 2 months later when my new phone arrived my signal was brilliant. I just never realised until the 2nd dose how bad my previous phone was, sadly the booster seems to have caused my WiFi to interfere with the phone signal when at home so I have to toggle it on and off. I presume that the latest variant caused it.
 
382,000 out of 131,000,000 vaccine injections given.

That’s only 0.29% of the people who’ve had a Covid jab that have had a reaction to it.

And from December 2020 to September 2021 there were 1,645 people who’d died shortly after having the vaccine. Which is 0.001% of those who’ve had a Covid jab have died soonafter having it.

As opposed to 148,000 people out of 11,800,000 cases who have died from Covid. Which is 1.25% of people who’ve had Covid dying from it.

0.001% v 1.25%
Would have needed 172 billion for your stat of 450,000/1 to be correct for an adverse reaction (which clearly isn't limited to dropping dead).

You play into the anti-vaxxers hands if you make incorrect or disingenuous claims.
 
A lot of people get reactions to vaccines, these reactions usually last a day and doesn't involve waking up and finding you've grown a new head.

Anti-vaxers using these stats as evidence is the problem.
My stupid niece said that she’s not getting the jab because she heard that someone in Beswick had to have their leg amputated because of the vaccine. You couldn’t make it up, the power of Facebook, more like facepalm.
 
Well yeah, now you put it like that, from now on I’ll be using ‘my own initiative’ and ignoring the combined knowledge and experience of the planet’s most eminent scientists and doctors.
Jesus wept.
Jog on then and don’t let the door hit you on the arse on your way out. And be careful not to fall off the edge of the flat earth
I detected a sarcastic tone in your answer.
 
Would have needed 172 billion for your stat of 450,000/1 to be correct for an adverse reaction (which clearly isn't limited to dropping dead).

You play into the anti-vaxxers hands if you make incorrect or disingenuous claims.
Has he turned you anti vax?

Does that mAke Diane Abbott the Queen of anti-vaxxers?
 
well said

times have moved on since pits & wars so i dont see how we compare what is happening now to what happened then.

we are all intelligent, take time out and stop listening to the biased bbc and celebrities paid a fortune or a government that is embarrassing themselves in lies more and more. Do a little bit of research and dont take everything you hear in the media as gospel.
bollox.

I've done my .research.
 

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