Coronavirus (2022) thread

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Churchlawtonblue said:
Sure its not incorrect but what relevance has the 334 got to do with it being the highest since March? When the average daily death rate since the beginning of Dec hasn't actually gone up? Surely reporting that little detail instead of highlighting the 334 would be better?
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I'm with you. There's two ways you can report things like this doom and gloom or the correct way which is positive news as it's not increasing one jot even after a month and a half of omicron. BBC always chooses the doom and gloom as do most other mainstream media outlets.
 
BerkshireBlue said:
I'm with you. There's two ways you can report things like this doom and gloom or the correct way which is positive news as it's not increasing one jot even after a month and a half of omicron. BBC always chooses the doom and gloom as do most other mainstream media outlets.
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Well that's the way I try and see things, Ie what's actually happening? Death data is so emotive and rightly so! that's why reporting context is equally important.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
In very good news, it is looking increasingly definitive that the link from hospitalizations to ICU admissions is broken.

Across the country and even in London, ahead of the curve, ICU occupancy remains static in the face of rapidly rising overall occupancy.

What combination of improved treatments, less severe variant, more prior immunity, more incidental admissions is driving this, I could only speculate. Probably a bit of everything?

Let's hope it continues as infections move into the older population, as they seem to be doing.

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Though what you also see is that the North West had the worst day out of these otherwise better numbers.

Patients up the most (near 80% week to week jump) and bucked the trend of ventilators elsewhere as these have been rising steadily all week in the region and now back on 100. Though only a 10% weekly rise here. So nothing to worry much about.

So there is a link still between highest cases, patients and ventilator numbers. Just not as strong as it was with the latter. Which if it continues as older patients are now catching Omicron will be great news

This is the key thing to watch in coming days.

The rapid rise in care home cases in Northern Ireland (quadrupled over the two week holidays) is going to tell us soon. Right now their ventilators are not rising at all - there were 26 when there were 44 care home outbreaks on 23 December and there are currently just 24 (two less) today with 168 care home outbreaks.

Those outbreaks will have bumped up the numbers of over 60s testing positive significantly as the data shows has happened. Doubled.

If this seemimgly broken link with the most vulnerable catching Omicron and the stable or even falling ventilator numbers holds for another week or two then this will be very good news for the future of this wave. And deaths will be nowhere near where some predictions were suggesting.
 
Healdplace said:
If this seemimgly broken link with the most vulnerable catching Omicron and the stable or even falling ventilator numbers holds for another week or two then this will be very good news for the future of this wave
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Yeah, the extent to whether the age shift ongoing in cases translates through to ICU/ death still not certain. But seems hard to imagine there would be a complete turnaround, even in a worst case scenario.
 
I can imagine after all these tragedies that at some point when this is over there will be a lawsuit against some Twitter source encouraging vaccine rebellion with distorted evidence by a relative of one of those sucked in and who died needlessly. They love these kind of status lawsuits in the US and this is going to be sadly ripe for someone to have a day in court even if it is likely freedom of speech or the 300th ammendment or whatever the 'right to bear qualms' is called will probably mean that it would fail.

If not it will be an episode on the next series of The Good Fight. Especially if the scriptwriter can find a way to blame Donald Trump.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
1 in 15 positive, thats ridiculous. 3.3million people. Hospital numbers rising fast but the % admitted must be very small indeed.
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Even with the obviouly less than actual case numbers of around 200,000 a day and a bit over 2000 a day going into hospital you can see that. And that 200,000 is an underestimate of cases and the 2000 a real number. So it is a tiny fraction.

On this day last year we were a few days from the peak of the Jan 2021 wave. With 60,916 cases on 5 Jan.

There were 4119 admissions from that level of cases then.

Today it is half that from over 3 times as many cases. So even on that measure about six times as many testing positive were going into hospital last year v today.

There were 30,686 in hospital a year ago and just under 18,000 today. And 2645 on ventilators then v 868 today.

This is a very different situation to a year ago. On every measure.
 
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