Epstein / Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor / Maxwell

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kaz7 said:
Harry more , i was married to a navy lad during the falklands and he said andrew didnt do anything like was reported , the media want a national royal hero , it was resented by the others that risked their lives , andrew has got a zillion medals given to him not because he fought in a war but through the stupid system that is in place for the royals , he like harry should only have medals for active duty and not peace time and honorary reasons imo

Have to say catching up with this thread how fucking pathetic some posts have been about a 95 yr old women , just lost the head of the family husband and three close aids that were with her for years and she trusted , her duty as a royal was to serve , she has rarely put a foot wrong in seventy years , shame on some of you
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Who has had anything bad to say about the queen in this thread?

Any quotes or have you made it up?
 
kaz7 said:
a couple , she is bitter , done nothing but lived in riches in a palace , she should be questioned for the nonses sitting at her seat in the cabin and she should have brought her kids up better
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So not that pathetic, just have a differing opinion of her to you. Her being 95 has nothing to do with those comments.

I have no idea if she is bitter or not. She’s never confirmed or denied that.

She hasn't lived anywhere but palaces. Not sure how much of a dig that is.

No one knows how much she did or did not know about Andrew’s dealings. We’re never likely to find out either.

Do royals actually bring up their own children? Either way, blaming her for her childrens’ actions when they themselves are over 60 seems disingenuous to me.
 
If her majesty wasn't aware the type of person her son is,she is burying her head in the sand although parents all over the world are reluctant to see the bad in their offspring. Her majesty is no different to millions of other parents in that respect. Andrew though seems to be disliked by every single person he's come across apart from the toe sucking gargoyle that is his ex wife
 
Nellies left peg said:
If her majesty wasn't aware the type of person her son is,she is burying her head in the sand although parents all over the world are reluctant to see the bad in their offspring. Her majesty is no different to millions of other parents in that respect. Andrew though seems to be disliked by every single person he's come across apart from the toe sucking gargoyle that is his ex wife
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I remember being on a corporate event up in the Highlands back in the early 1990's. It was one on those "country sports days" - clay pigeon shooting etc etc. The head ghillie was telling me that the Royals went there from time to time to shoot and gave an interesting insight into how they behaved. He said that in his experience Philip, Charles, & Edward were perfect gentlemen who treated all members of staff with respect. On the other hand, he described Andrew as "a horrible man" who treated all the staff like something on the sole of his shoe. That description has always stuck with me. He said that he was the most arrogant and obnoxious person he had ever come across.
I've always believed that in life you reap what you sow and this now appears to be coming to pass for him. He deserves all he gets IMHO.
 
Octavian said:
Excuse me, I haven’t defended the sweaty rapist, I think he’s a **** and hope he faces justice. I defended his military career that another person mocked.
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I've spoken to people who knew him in the Navy and they all thought he was a **** and his Falklands exploits are overblown.
One of them also knew Charles from the navy and he said that unlike Andrew he was well respected even though he had a career that was accelerated due to his status.
 
west didsblue said:
I've spoken to people who knew him in the Navy and they all thought he was a **** and his Falklands exploits are overblown.
One of them also knew Charles from the navy and he said that unlike Andrew he was well respected even though he had a career that was accelerated due to his status.
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I think probably none of these royals had sufficient qualifications to be pilots yet their high ranking opened doors to the proper places. I don't think looking at their academic records any of them would get on the krypton factor possibly only it's a knockout
 
Nellies left peg said:
I think probably none of these royals had sufficient qualifications to be pilots yet their high ranking opened doors to the proper places. I don't think looking at their academic records any of them would get on the krypton factor possibly only it's a knockout
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Well i doubt three of them were allowed to carry people around in their helicopters if they werent safe , they passed the courses so are not thick
 
Nellies left peg said:
If her majesty wasn't aware the type of person her son is,she is burying her head in the sand although parents all over the world are reluctant to see the bad in their offspring. Her majesty is no different to millions of other parents in that respect. Andrew though seems to be disliked by every single person he's come across apart from the toe sucking gargoyle that is his ex wife
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I absolutely guarantee my mother never knew half the shit I got up to when round my pals houses when I was aged 14 upwards.

People presume she knows absolutely everything that’s ever happened.
 
Octavian said:
I absolutely guarantee my mother never knew half the shit I got up to when round my pals houses when I was aged 14 upwards.

People presume she knows absolutely everything that’s ever happened.
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When you have secret services et al at your disposal it puts a different spin on things don't you think?
 
-dabz- said:
When you have secret services et al at your disposal it puts a different spin on things don't you think?
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They aren’t there to keep tabs on what adult royals are doing with their mates every second of every day and I highly doubt she’s asking them to anyway
 
Octavian said:
They aren’t there to keep tabs on what adult royals are doing with their mates every second of every day and I highly doubt she’s asking them to anyway
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I think his response was to your suggestion that your mum didn’t know half of what you got up to when you were 14.

The Queen will have known everything about Andrew at that age, just not when he was older.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
I think his response was to your suggestion that your mum didn’t know half of what you got up to when you were 14.

The Queen will have known everything about Andrew at that age, just not when he was older.
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Yeah and that’s fair enough, she’s not knowing what he’s doing in his 40s and 50s and the secret service isn’t spying on him.
 
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