Chelsea Thread - 2021/22

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Vialli98 said:
The club dealt with that immediately and the man that abused Sterling has a lifelong ban now.

I'm sorry that you disagree. Chelsea's fanbase in its current version is no different to City, United or any other fanbase when it comes to stupid knuckleheads doing stupid things. I'm a black man and I've experienced or witnessed some form of racism at damn near every ground I've been to in my life, City included.
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To be fair we had someone banned and taken to court, in the last few years, who was picked up on camera making monkey gestures to a black player. Unfortunately in a crowd of 50k people, there are always going to be a percentage of idiots and that person didn't reflect the majority of City fans, in the same way the person who abused Sterling doesn't represent most of yours.
 
Vialli98 said:
The club dealt with that immediately and the man that abused Sterling has a lifelong ban now.

I'm sorry that you disagree. Chelsea's fanbase in its current version is no different to City, United or any other fanbase when it comes to stupid knuckleheads doing stupid things. I'm a black man and I've experienced or witnessed some form of racism at damn near every ground I've been to in my life, City included.
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Nobody should have to put up with or witness racism mate, it’s the most basic vile horrible senseless disgusting shit possible. However to say City fans are the same as chelsea fans are the same isn’t correct but I completely agree that a racist City fan is just as bad as a racist chelsea fan.

Edit, sorry I should have added, I do agree with your point that chelsea as a club have done an awful lot over the last few years to try and eradicate the racist problem at chelsea, and that is to be applauded
 
DenisHasDoneIt said:
Individual quality lacking up front? If only they had unlimited resources they could have spent £57.6 million on Pulisic, £36 million on Ziyech and £97 million on Lukaku. That’s a quality front three however way you slice it, but Stones and Laporte had them for lunch. Lukaku in particular could have told the media there was a lack of individual imagination from the dug-out, but has perhaps said enough already. @Eccles Blue is spot-on. TT is a strange feller.
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TT - Tactical Tuchel..?
 
TT contemplating his next move.

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BringBackSwales said:
Nobody should have to put up with or witness racism mate, it’s the most basic vile horrible senseless disgusting shit possible. However to say City fans are the same as chelsea fans are the same isn’t correct but I completely agree that a racist City fan is just as bad as a racist chelsea fan.

Edit, sorry I should have added, I do agree with your point that chelsea as a club have done an awful lot over the last few years to try and eradicate the racist problem at chelsea, and that is to be applauded
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It's fine that you disagree with the fanbases being kind of similar generally speaking, but to me football is just a reflection of the general society and there no more racists in West London than there are in Manchester. My personal experiences factor into my belief too. I've witnessed more racist, xenophobic, homophobic etc incidents at Chelsea but that's only because I obviously frequent Chelsea 100x more than other grounds, but I'll be honest, I have never visited the Etihad and not experienced or witnessed some form of racism, whether it a silly chant made up by a group of lads outside the ground or me personally being racially abused. It's just the nature of being a minority in that kind of drunken environment.

I wasn't honestly trying to go out of my way to paint City fans in a bad light. This conversation started with me just wanting to defend Chelsea against an accusation. For the most part, the City fans I've met (and this goes for fans of other clubs too, except Milwall) have been kind, friendly and happy to have a friendly chat about the game.
 
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Vialli98 said:
It's fine that you disagree with the fanbases being kind of similar generally speaking, but to me football is just a reflection of the general society and there no more racists in West London than there are in Manchester. My personal experiences factor into my belief too. I've witnessed more racist, xenophobic, homophobic etc incidents at Chelsea but that's only because I obviously frequent Chelsea 100x more than other grounds, but I'll be honest, I have never visited the Etihad and not experienced or witnessed some form of racism, whether it a silly chant made up by a group of lads outside the ground or me personally being racially abused. It's just the nature of being a minority in that kind of drunken environment.

I wasn't honestly trying to go out of my way to paint City fans in a bad light. This conversation started with me just wanting to defend Chelsea against an accusation. For the most part, the City fans I've met (and this goes for fans of other clubs too, except Milwall) have been kind, friendly and happy to have a friendly chat about the game.
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To be fair I wish more chelsea fans were like you. To be equally fair I wish more City fans were too
 
Vialli98 said:
I'm not going to defend the club based on the lack of action in 80's and 90's. The current ownership wasn't in place then. In the last 2 decades Chelsea have made a concerted effort to combat that kind of behaviour. They've issued statements, banning orders etc. They've had a long running antisemitic awareness campaign going back to 2009 or 2010. The idea that the club isn't sensitive to that kind of behaviour is quite frankly bullshit.
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The club's anti-hate campaigns have not worked well then have they based on high profile incidents, of which at least two that I can recall, were recent, plus continuing anti semitic abuse that continues at games against Spurs.
 
Manc in London said:
The club's anti-hate campaigns have not worked well then have they based on high profile incidents, of which at least two that I can recall, were recent, plus continuing anti semitic abuse that continues at games against Spurs.
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It's an ongoing awareness campaign. Eradicating it is a pipedream but considering where things were in the 90's when I began frequenting the Bridge I'd say the work the club is doing is in fact working.
 
Vialli98 said:
It's an ongoing awareness campaign. Eradicating it is a pipedream but considering where things were in the 90's when I began frequenting the Bridge I'd say the work the club is doing is in fact working.
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Apologies if I’ve Graham poll’ed you with mistaken identity but aren’t you the Chelsea fan that argued with me months ago that tuchel isn’t a defensive manager?
If so given the setup you’ve played a ver the last 10 games or so would you now admit you were wrong and he is indeed a defensive whinging twat of a manager?
 
hello said:
Apologies if I’ve Graham poll’ed you with mistaken identity but aren’t you the Chelsea fan that argued with me months ago that tuchel isn’t a defensive manager?
If so given the setup you’ve played a ver the last 10 games or so would you now admit you were wrong and he is indeed a defensive whinging twat of a manager?
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Less of the "of a manager" if you don't mind.
 
hello said:
Apologies if I’ve Graham poll’ed you with mistaken identity but aren’t you the Chelsea fan that argued with me months ago that tuchel isn’t a defensive manager?
If so given the setup you’ve played a ver the last 10 games or so would you now admit you were wrong and he is indeed a defensive whinging twat of a manager?
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You seem to be a bit obsessed with this mate. He isn't a defensive manager. He hasn't been one in his entire career at Mainz, Dortmund, PSG and Chelsea. In the last 10 games we've outplayed Spurs x2, Liverpool, Villa, Brentford, Everton and Wolves. We've split possession across 2 games against Brighton and then got outplayed by City.

Whether he's a whinging twat, that's up for discussion. I'm certainly not going to be looking for favourable views on that on a City forum. Just like Pep isn't viewed favourably in Chelsea, United or Liverpool circles.
 
Vialli98 said:
You seem to be a bit obsessed with this mate. He isn't a defensive manager. He hasn't been one in his entire career at Mainz, Dortmund, PSG and Chelsea. In the last 10 games we've outplayed Spurs x2, Liverpool, Villa, Brentford, Everton and Wolves. We've split possession across 2 games against Brighton and then got outplayed by City.

Whether he's a whinging twat, that's up for discussion. I'm certainly not going to be looking for favourable views on that on a City forum. Just like Pep isn't viewed favourably in Chelsea, United or Liverpool circles.
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I'm sticking my head above the parapet here and say that I like Tuchel, it's my job to pick holes out of him as a City fan but I like him. OK he whinges a bit but he always appears to have a smile on his face and he's an articulate sort.

Compare him to Bingo and it's night and day.

The biggest mistake Chelsea has made IMHO is buying the Lukaku dreadnought who couldn't gegenpresse his own packed lunch.
 
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