Russian invasion of Ukraine

Colin Bells Holdall said:
I watched the England - Ukraine game in a hotel in Antalya , Turkey last year. Their was a load of Ukranians watching and me the only englishman.
Very nice people, I drank their home made wodka all night.
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To provide further context to this conflict, I can confirm I bumped into a group of Russians on holiday in Cyprus and they were twats.
 
Bill Walker said:
I've come to the conclusion that the whole human fucking race needs obliterating.
Wipe all human life out with a massive nuclear war and leave the place to whatever creatures survive. Humans (supposably the intelligent form of life) are a fucking nightmare.
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Putin's history lesson from Monday translated into this grafik:


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Putin only accepts the blue core as Ukraine.
This is a pre-justification for the action to be expected soon.
 
Bill Walker said:
I've come to the conclusion that the whole human fucking race needs obliterating.
Wipe all human life out with a massive nuclear war and leave the place to whatever creatures survive. Humans (supposably the intelligent form of life) are a fucking nightmare.
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I did suggest we all just skinned up and had a wank. I've yet to see a better suggestion.
 
Bill Walker said:
I've come to the conclusion that the whole human fucking race needs obliterating.
Wipe all human life out with a massive nuclear war and leave the place to whatever creatures survive. Humans (supposably the intelligent form of life) are a fucking nightmare.
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Great idea. Billions of innocent women and children to be wiped out - because there’s a war brewing which 99.999999999999999999% of the world’s population had nothing to do with.
 
Bill Walker said:
I've come to the conclusion that the whole human fucking race needs obliterating.
Wipe all human life out with a massive nuclear war and leave the place to whatever creatures survive. Humans (supposably the intelligent form of life) are a fucking nightmare.
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That's the spirit.
 
Bill Walker said:
I've come to the conclusion that the whole human fucking race needs obliterating.
Wipe all human life out with a massive nuclear war and leave the place to whatever creatures survive. Humans (supposably the intelligent form of life) are a fucking nightmare.
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I thought Pol Pot was already dead.
 
metalblue said:
Huh? Your stance has been to say the UK can’t say owt because of something we did wrong (in your eyes) in the past …. But now you’re saying but we can now talk and ask them to return to a peace agreement that, incidentally, was in place when they were amassing 10s of thousands of troops on the Ukrainian border?

You’re all over the place fella.
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I believe Boris shouldn’t be giving the illegal war rhetoric in the commons due to Iraq, makes the UK look like hypocrites.

I also said Russia should have been offered the same missile defence system NATO has, if he has security concerns, prior to this escalating, if he took it and pulled back troops, happy days. If he didn’t, it would have revealed his true intentions and I would supported some sort of emergency (initially temporary) NATO membership for Ukraine.

The fact is, when Russia complained, NATO basically said fuck off we’ll do what we want and so can Ukraine, and that’s when the diplomacy should have taken place, I mean NATO could have just took the fucking missile system out really couldn’t they, or pulled it back a bit geographically. I believe NATO have treated Russia as an enemy, and I can understand Russia’s nervousness about an expansion east they were promised wouldn’t happen.

I don’t know what Putins plans are, I’m not sure many do, I understand why he’d have security concerns and I don’t think NATO and in particular the US, are the good guys that many on here clearly do.

The only way back is for diplomacy, and I think the sanctions, at this stage, were a bad idea as they were too early, certainly whilst diplomacy was still an option.

And WE as in the UK shouldn’t be saying anything about peace or anything else, it should be Jens Stoltenberg and NATO.

I fear it’s all too late now.

On the other side of the argument, Putins speech was inconsistent with what he’s been saying, the fact he pulled the history of Ukraines sovereignty into it is extremely alarming. Like I said in my last post, IF this is only a Russian expansion he’ll take everything except Kiev, and IF that’s the case NATO have royally fucked up their diplomacy (I get it was lose-lose for NATO).
 
Inter Me Nan said:
They exist?
Christ!
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bluesteel said:
I believe Boris shouldn’t be giving the illegal war rhetoric in the commons due to Iraq, makes the UK look like hypocrites.

I also said Russia should have been offered the same missile defence system NATO has, if he has security concerns, prior to this escalating, if he took it and pulled back troops, happy days. If he didn’t, it would have revealed his true intentions and I would supported some sort of emergency (initially temporary) NATO membership for Ukraine.

The fact is, when Russia complained, NATO basically said fuck off we’ll do what we want and so can Ukraine, and that’s when the diplomacy should have taken place, I mean NATO could have just took the fucking missile system out really couldn’t they, or pulled it back a bit geographically. I believe NATO have treated Russia as an enemy, and I can understand Russia’s nervousness about an expansion east they were promised wouldn’t happen.

I don’t know what Putins plans are, I’m not sure many do, I understand why he’d have security concerns and I don’t think NATO and in particular the US, are the good guys that many on here clearly do.

The only way back is for diplomacy, and I think the sanctions, at this stage, were a bad idea as they were too early, certainly whilst diplomacy was still an option.

And WE as in the UK shouldn’t be saying anything about peace or anything else, it should be Jens Stoltenberg and NATO.

I fear it’s all too late now.

On the other side of the argument, Putins speech was inconsistent with what he’s been saying, the fact he pulled the history of Ukraines sovereignty into it is extremely alarming. Like I said in my last post, IF this is only a Russian expansion he’ll take everything except Kiev, and IF that’s the case NATO have royally fucked up their diplomacy (I get it was lose-lose for NATO).
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