Russian invasion of Ukraine

crazyg said:
When I was a lot younger, and there was a serious threat of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) from a nuclear war, we were given brief instructions on what to do if it ever happened. These were:
a) Bend down
b) Put your head between your knees
c) Kiss your arse goodbye

Unfortunately, at 71, I am not as supple as I used to be, and b) is now a non-starter.

I'm getting worried.
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And me
 
Blue warrior said:
Zelensky tells Ukrainians that saboteurs have entered Kyiv and urges residents of the city to abide by the curfew. He says he is enemy number 1 for Russia and they are out to kill him as Ukraine's head of state.


Zelensky is doing his best in this announcement to put on a brave face. He says he has asked 27 NATO countries to come to Ukraine's aid but they are all afraid. But he says, "We are not afraid. We are not afraid of anything."
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I don't blame him tbh, Ukraine was convinced to give up its nukes and now has no way of stopping Putin.
 
domalino said:
Sorry, you think the entire Russian army is in Ukraine? You think it's actually remotely possible Russia sends its entire military into Ukraine?

Which is entirely besides the point because there are 7 million between 16-49 in Ukraine. Thats who you're fighting in an insurgency, not 200,000 active personnel before the invasion or the 200,000 thousand reservists you didn't mention.

You seem to have this bizarre idea that Russia is going to walk into Kyiv and 40 million Ukrainians will say "Oh well we tried for a few days". That's not how invasion works.
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The interesting thing is going to be how both the russian army and the populace act if they do manage to take control as even if they do, they’re going to have constant insurgence. I think they were told the support in Ukraine for the current state is a lot less than it actually is. Seen a few reports of that already coming out.
 
Elbow beards said:
Fucking hell, just said on news night, Britain, France and Germany have a total of around 690 tanks Russia have 13,000.
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Tangled up in blue. said:
Were fucked
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Guys have you not heard of NATO?

The United States have 8500 on their own.

Also I'm not sure who said that on newsnight, but The Americans reckon Russia has about 2,000 tanks and the rest are APCs.

Given the relative spending on military by the USA (770Bn/year) and Russia (60Bn/year) it doesn't really make sense that the Russians would have anything like the number the US has unless they literally poured all of their money into tanks, so the 2,000 figure is probably more accurate.
 
Blue warrior said:
Zelensky tells Ukrainians that saboteurs have entered Kyiv and urges residents of the city to abide by the curfew. He says he is enemy number 1 for Russia and they are out to kill him as Ukraine's head of state.


Zelensky is doing his best in this announcement to put on a brave face. He says he has asked 27 NATO countries to come to Ukraine's aid but they are all afraid. But he says, "We are not afraid. We are not afraid of anything."
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He’s not wrong, and some have been piss poor even with potential sanctions.
 
bluesteel said:
You said the president was voted out. I said there was no vote and he fled the country.
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Fucking hell. So when we have a general election and replace the previous prime minister were they or were they not voted out? The fact the spineless **** fled the country rather than face the courts which is where he’d have ended up is neither here nor there

You’re coming across as an argumentative twat if I’m being honest
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
Yeah but how old and fucked will those 13000 tanks be.
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On this, saw a photo of a downed Russian tank earlier on twitter. Thing looked like a rust bucket anyway, before it had been blown to pieces.

As a side not, the picture was quite depressing though really. I thought I'd see it and feel a surge of 'go on, Ukraine!', but nah. The turret and top of it had completely blown off, and all I could think of was that the (presumably now dead) people in it were probably relatively terrified young Russian blokes who didn't want this reality either. Just felt sorta sad for all involved. It's all just fucking grim, isn't it?
 
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