Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Saddleworth2]

Yeah right.

Thats an incisive piece of analysis mate. Thanks for educating us.

Which bits do you take issue with and why?

 

[blueinsa]

This stage managed Lavrov propaganda press conference is shocking.

Journalist asks an awkward question and he is called rude and shut off.

Chinese journalist asks a nice leading question setting up Lavrov for his anti west diatribe.

 

[Octavian]

The bit about it not happening on his watch is utter bullshit and was said to try and blame Biden.
On Trump’s watch Russia deployed biological weapons in the U.K. The only reason Russia didn’t invade Ukraine during the Trump presidency is that Putin wasn’t ready to do it yet. He’s been building up to this for years.

yes, it’s a political attack on Biden which just shows he doesn’t care for anyone but his own power.

Biden doesn’t warrant any blame for this.

I think Putin was waiting for the pandemic to slide before he could mobilise the force. Having soldiers going down with delta would have made things difficult but in my experience Putin hasn’t just thought of this last week - he’ll have had the idea that he was going to when Trump was in power.

 

[metalblue]

Whilst the Tory Party, our Government and others may have enabled the Putin regime in part, Putin and Putin alone is responsible for this crime. Hopefully Johnson et al will now put all past relationships and pressures aside, work closely with the EU and USA and do what is right.

Whilst I very much agree with the sentiment it’s actually the EU who need to work closely with the UK and USA to do what is right.

 

[Kompany Car]

Just seen a clip of a Russian tank running over a civilian car as they went to drive past, luckily they are alive. Shithouse bastards

That was knocking about on line yesterday.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Whilst the Tory Party, our Government and others may have enabled the Putin regime in part, Putin and Putin alone is responsible for this crime. Hopefully Johnson et al will now put all past relationships and pressures aside, work closely with the EU and USA and do what is right.

It was refreshing to see the HoCs all on the same page yesterday afternoon. Even Boris seemed informed and confident, with other MPs across the board backing him.

It’s a bloody shame it wasn’t like that during the pandemic, but at least it seemed like it will be for this situation and hopefully NATO works well together, making the right decisions.

We need some more united (I know, I know!) thinking and have the outlook of people in this country and other counties in the West to be less divisive. Putin might have started causing the widening divisions and enhancing of numbers at the extremes of the divisions in the West, but Putin might also be starting to reduce them with his current actions.

 

[The blue phantom]

I can't believe there's folk on here who think Trump isn't rooting for Putin. He's all fuckin in with him. This is a guy who ripped the rule book up about becoming a President. Doesn't give a shit about America's interest, only his own.

 

[west didsblue]

yes, it’s a political attack on Biden which just shows he doesn’t care for anyone but his own power.

Biden doesn’t warrant any blame for this.

I think Putin was waiting for the pandemic to slide before he could mobilise the force. Having soldiers going down with delta would have made things difficult but in my experience Putin hasn’t just thought of this last week - he’ll have had the idea that he was going to when Trump was in power.

Trump's 4 years of doing his best to weaken NATO were certainly part of Putin's plan in my opinion.

 

[blueinsa]

It’s quite something when the fucking Taliban issue a statement asking for both sides to end this with dialogue.

Did they write that before or after murdering some poor fucker because of some alleged infraction against Islam?

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

You are of course correct. London is the world centre for laundering and stashing the illicit Russian money. We have actively attracted Putins henchmen under the golden passport scheme which was withdrawn, erm, a week ago by Patel. Words are very cheap. For those that believe there is no connection between what has happened this week and the part London financial markets and the Tory party have played to help create a ruling despotic elite in Russia then sorry, you are just wrong.

Did Russian money only start coming into London after 2010? I think Blair and Brown's governments were just as complicit in welcoming dirty Russian Oligarchs.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

compared to GB News?

BBC have been excellent on this and those live reporters out there deserve some special praise

For example. Yesterdays attacks on an airport appear to have been widely reported elsewhere with no mention on either channel at the time. Last night I watched the BBC for a while and it was basically the same as Sky.
After a while I went on CNN. The difference was like night and day. Today I've skipped through various channels which have a broader and wider range of reports from those on the ground. Imo.
As for your GB news comment, why would you aim that at me ? Seriously?

 

[metalblue]

It’s quite something when the fucking Taliban issue a statement asking for both sides to end this with dialogue.

Did they write that before or after murdering some poor fucker because of some alleged infraction against Islam?

World has officially gone mad

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Did Russian money only start coming into London after 2010? I think Blair and Brown's governments were just as complicit in welcoming dirty Russian Oligarchs.

Started immediately after the fall of the USSR when Russians with wealth found they could make a lot more money in the West, and it’s carried in right through to today.

 

[Akai]

 

[grunge]

For example. Yesterdays attacks on an airport appear to have been widely reported elsewhere with no mention on either channel at the time. Last night I watched the BBC for a while and it was basically the same as Sky.
After a while I went on CNN. The difference was like night and day. Today I've skipped through various channels which have a broader and wider range of reports from those on the ground. Imo.
As for your GB news comment, why would you aim that at me ? Seriously?

While I take it with a pinch of salt one of the main places I've been looking is https://www.aljazeera.com/

clearly will have its own set of biases but good to see alternate "independant" views

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Ignore him. He's been doing his best to downplay Trump's malign influence for years.

And Putin's

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Well what do you expect when spunk bubbles keep saying “this wouldn’t have happened under Trump”? Everyone to nod sagely in agreement?

I'm not saying that this wouldn't have happened under trump, and of course as a former leader he leaves a legacy and consequences, but he is no longer relevant unless people allow him to be.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Russian armoured column attacked and soldier killed in Kyiv. Also bridge blown up by Ukraine special forces.
Al Jazeera.

 

[SPIDERBOY]

Just seen a clip of a Russian tank running over a civilian car as they went to drive past, luckily they are alive. Shithouse bastards

Yeah,seen a clip of people getting him out.
How he ain't dead is a fuckin miracle,the car is completely wrecked.

 

[Octavian]

Trump's 4 years of doing his best to weaken NATO were certainly part of Putin's plan in my opinion.

I think Trump’s concerns about lack of defence spending were legitimate but doing so in public was a big fuck up.

It showed NATO to be fractured and weak.