Russian invasion of Ukraine

MCFC1993 said:
Hahaha they also said they were going in to 'peacekeep' in Luhansk and Donetsk and the moment everyone went to sleep they bombed every major city in Ukraine and are currently storming towards Kyiv.

If you believe a word Russia/Putin says then you are gullible.
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Yes but this time they mean it… also they want peace talks. I don’t think they are being duplicitous at all
 
bluesteel said:
Damnable NATO for not backing off in regards to giving Ukraine membership.

NATO had 2 options.
Option 1, don’t back off, lose Ukraine to a bloody war.
Option 2, back off, if Russia back off too, happy days, if they don’t, lose Ukraine to a bloody war.

Option 1 is patently absurd.
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Are you Russian?
 
Chippy_boy said:
Makes you wonder if perhaps the dozens of sycophants and yes-men he's surrounded himself with, have been allowing the deluded idiot to become convinced that all Ukrainians secretly want to be part of Russia again???
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Think there might be quite a lot of truth in that.

Even if they put in a new government, they are going to struggle to keep any form of order at all.
 
St.Pauli support said:
Maybe German gov is not as stupid as some suggest and have had a thought or two about national energy security before stopping Nord Stream 2.
We have reserves and time to fill them up again.
Don't worry about Germany. It's about Ukraine and freedom in general.
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Greedy, mercantilist, naïve, stupid. Take your pick
Even German owned websites agree.

www.politico.eu

How Germany helped blaze Putin’s path into Ukraine

Berlin gave the Russian president the benefit of the doubt until it was too late.
www.politico.eu www.politico.eu
 
Chippy_boy said:
Makes you wonder if perhaps the dozens of sycophants and yes-men he's surrounded himself with, have been allowing the deluded idiot to become convinced that all Ukrainians secretly want to be part of Russia again???
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He's been in power for 22 years, replacing & imprisoning anyone who dares disagree with him.

Deluded beyond anything. He thinks himself invincible.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Article in the FT made it clear that the German leadership was asleep at the wheel over gas supplies the last 10 years.

But then the Germans have always had a bit of an up and down relationship with gas.
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I mentioned the other day, I worked on the front end of a project 6 years ago to build an LNG facility in Canada to export gas directly to Germany. They wanted it to reduce their reliance on Russian gas. It would have been operational in 2022. They decided it was a bit too expensive.
 
AliBobbyJ said:
Yes. Reminds me of when I was teaching and a lass in my History lesson said about the Iron Curtain that the USSR "had got their giant
testicles on eastern Europe."
Much hilarity ensued, girl much embarrassed.
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That's a bit like when Sir Francis Chichester "circumcised the globe with a 70 foot clipper".
 
MillionMilesAway said:
He has this mental block/fixation that the US is NATO and NATO is the US.

"NATO members invaded Iraq therefore NATO invaded Iraq" is so logically clueless, it seems futile to point out the plain wrongness.
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Let’s get real, NATO is the USA, NATO without the US is pointless.

The USA provide protection to anyone who signs up, as long as they can use your land for their bases.
 
metalblue said:
I believe the diplomatic expression is “they’ve gone full on tonto”
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Now that clip was cringeworthy... if that chinless wonder and the simps sat around the table with him are the best we've got then god help us, it's no wonder Putin is confident in his actions.
 
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