Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Marvin]

It's not just the British Forugn Office though is it ?

It was. They created the UAE, it was formerly a British protectorate. At first the UAE was effectively an overseas arm of the British state. No more. They seek to develop their own nations and assert their own political interests. The people they co-operate with are US universities, South Korea, Japan and India. they want to train up their own people as fast as possible and that is the purpose of their nuclear and space programs

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I want not just the yanks everyone to stand up to this **** and show him he can’t bully the world if he fires any sort of nuke Russia will be destroyed as well he is a clever fucker who think by threats he can do what the fuck he wants where does it end

I think we are especially bothered by this because it's on the doorstep of Europe and frankly Ukrainians look like us. If they were a bit further away and brown or yellow we'd probably just shake our heads, shrug our shoulders and think it's not good but ultimately get on with our lives. We take exactly the same stance as India/UAE are here on various conflicts and atrocities around the world every day.

 

[Bazzmand Show]

Feel genuinely sorry for the people of Ukraine. But as outsiders, the way I see it it’s literally NATO and the West causing trouble on one side vs an egotistical and expansionist Russia on the other side.

As always we are just pawns in geo politics and the west also has blood on their hands.

 

[bluemoon32]

Boeing are going to ban Russian pilots apparently and Airbus will follow suit. No Russians in Cyprus this summer for me to get pissed off by.

Only been to Cyprus once, lovely place but full of super arrogant Russian gangster wannabe's.

 

[carlosthejackal]

It's not just the British Forugn Office though is it ? Plenty of other countries that they have "an excellent relationship" with have managed to register their disgust at this formally in the UN. The weasel words of their representative are just that if you aren't prepared to back a unified response by voting. Putin's regime will certainly view it as being supportive.
Comes a point when the blue tinted specs need to be cleaned a little.

United were getting dogs abuse yesterday for the Aeroflot deal but apparently nothing to see with the UAE / City connection and abstention from the UN vote .

 

[Scottyboi]

Feel genuinely sorry for the people of Ukraine. But as outsiders, the way I see it it’s literally NATO and the West causing trouble on one side vs an egotistical and expansionist Russia on the other side.

As always we are just pawns in geo politics and the west also has blood on their hands.

Another for the ignore, pathetic wum attempts.

 

[RadcliffeRick]

Boeing are going to ban Russian pilots apparently and Airbus will follow suit. No Russians in Cyprus this summer for me to get pissed off by.

Only the couple of thousand that live there

 

[blueinsa]

Modern anti tank missile systems have reduced tanks and other armoured vehicles to nothing but mobile coffins.

Ukraine has been prepared for this invasion knowing full well Russia was all about huge numbers of armoured vehicles and tanks and I’ve little doubt they are suffering huge losses from this capable, stand off systems that ourselves and NATO have pumped in.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Anyone else picking up vibes from Washington that, even if Russia attacked a NATO partner, the US wouldn't want to get involved in a war with Russia?

I'd be appalled if the U.S. would ever WANT a war with Russia.

Doesn't mean they wouldn't defend NATO members. That would be unthinkable.

 

[Scottyboi]

Only been to Cyprus once, lovely place but full of super arrogant Russian gangster wannabe's.

I went most years before covid, finally going back this summer. The Russians are so miserable even when in holiday.

 

[bluemoon32]

I'd be appalled if the U.S. would ever WANT a war with Russia.

Doesn't mean they wouldn't defend NATO members. That would be unthinkable.

But would they defend NATO members against Russia, with their nuclear arsenal ?
I'm not so certain they would

 

[Scottyboi]

Only the couple of thousand that live there

Not the same they won't be in my hotel ignoring and queues for the food or beer haha.

 

[bluemoon32]

I went most years before covid, finally going back this summer. The Russians are so miserable even when in holiday.

Miserable and aggressive as fuck, they don't do queuing, they just walk to the front, caused no end of rows at the hotel bar haha

 

[RadcliffeRick]

Not the same they won't be in my hotel ignoring and queues for the food or beer haha.

Every dark cloud ....

 

[SWP's back]

As you was in q convesation chain I re0lied in reference more to your original comment below


We are not allied with India when it comes to conficts overseas so why would we expect them to do as we do.

They have abstained for their own reasons, if it had been france or germany, out NATO ally I would hqve been dumbfounded, India, China and UAE I don't find an odd decision, but doesn't mean I agree with it.

He was the one that said they were a fucking ally as I posted. If you can’t be arsed reading my conversation with him then fine but it gives you context as to why I’m using the term.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

It's not just the British Forugn Office though is it ?

It was. They created the UAE, it was formerly a British protectorate. At first the UAE was effectively an overseas arm of the British state. No more. They seek to develop their own nations and assert their own political interests. The people they co-operate with are US universities, South Korea, Japan and India. they want to train up their own people as fast as possible and that is the purpose of their nuclear and space programs

Didn't realise you were harkng back to the formation of the Trucial States of 1820 to explain why they wouldn't support a UN resolution against a Tyrant invading and murdering citizens of, a neighbouring country, in 2022.. Apologies.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Only been to Cyprus once, lovely place but full of super arrogant Russian gangster wannabe's.

I've been a fairly regular visitor to Cyprus for 20 years and the Russian presence there has grown massively. Largely because after the Greek financial crisis Cyprus (Greek bit) was buggered and to generate cash they cheerfully gave out citizenship and a shiny EU passport in return for largish property investment. For Russians with cash this represented a neat opportunity to get sun, sea, sand, EU citizenship, and nicely laundered money. They've also been ramping up the cloak and dagger stuff over there against UK/NATO interests.

 

[mosssideblue]

Feel genuinely sorry for the people of Ukraine. But as outsiders, the way I see it it’s literally NATO and the West causing trouble on one side vs an egotistical and expansionist Russia on the other side.

As always we are just pawns in geo politics and the west also has blood on their hands.

In what way are NATO and the West causing trouble exactly?

 

[BigJoe#1]

Them pesky Ruskies - being blamed for hacking the BA IT system. Due to fly to Stockholm at 07:15, managed to get booked on the 17:00.... so 10 hours to kill.

 

[mosssideblue]

I'd be appalled if the U.S. would ever WANT a war with Russia.

Doesn't mean they wouldn't defend NATO members. That would be unthinkable.

I agree, but was just the tone of the lady reporting Biden's stance this morning left me thinking otherwise