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Big thumbs up to nikes returns policy, my vapourflys have devolped a hole in the upper, I bought them last march and "might" have done a few miles in them, got onto nike..... Full refund!!
 
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12 mile long run yesterday following a 15 and 16 miler over the past two weekends. Didn't enjoy it at all! Had done a few interval sprint workouts during the week and legs were just gone. Throw in the wind and a bad nights sleep and was just one of those I had to push through.

18 miles this Sunday followed by a 14 miler and the big 20 mile effort before the taper. Getting close to race day now and it is starting to scare me!
 
supercity88 said:
12 mile long run yesterday following a 15 and 16 miler over the past two weekends. Didn't enjoy it at all! Had done a few interval sprint workouts during the week and legs were just gone. Throw in the wind and a bad nights sleep and was just one of those I had to push through.

18 miles this Sunday followed by a 14 miler and the big 20 mile effort before the taper. Getting close to race day now and it is starting to scare me!
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But you did push on through, thats half the battle the mental side of it, by the sounds of things you are probably physically ok for the long runs, but your heads questioning your legs, I think everyone gets that, yesterday morning i struggled to get up knowing I had planned a 20 miler, I did get up and did do it, but the longer I lay in bed the more the doubt rolled in.
Im always trying out weird and wacky stuff with my runs, yesterday i broke it into 5 miles as I know I can do 5 without much effort, so i counted the miles in up to 5 and then start again x4 it kind of worked for me, although having my garmin tell me I was on mile 7 when it was clearly mile 2 was a headfuck!!
You can do it, just stop telling yourself you cant.
 
gaz76 said:
But you did push on through, thats half the battle the mental side of it, by the sounds of things you are probably physically ok for the long runs, but your heads questioning your legs, I think everyone gets that, yesterday morning i struggled to get up knowing I had planned a 20 miler, I did get up and did do it, but the longer I lay in bed the more the doubt rolled in.
Im always trying out weird and wacky stuff with my runs, yesterday i broke it into 5 miles as I know I can do 5 without much effort, so i counted the miles in up to 5 and then start again x4 it kind of worked for me, although having my garmin tell me I was on mile 7 when it was clearly mile 2 was a headfuck!!
You can do it, just stop telling yourself you cant.
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I pushed on through to a coop and bought lucozade and more snacks. That helped too!

The fact it is for charity is a huge help mentally. Keeps me moving forwards. I have got to spend these final few weeks getting my fueling right, have slacked massively on that and it is taking a toll. Decent meal the night before, decent breakfast and gels/fluids for the run have all been neglected but I am stocked up now.

I agree on the strategy of breaking the run down into manageable chunks. I had done a hard 5 miles on Saturday PM so Sunday morning didn't feel as rested as usual (generally have one day rest before the long effort).
 
supercity88 said:
12 mile long run yesterday following a 15 and 16 miler over the past two weekends. Didn't enjoy it at all! Had done a few interval sprint workouts during the week and legs were just gone. Throw in the wind and a bad nights sleep and was just one of those I had to push through.

18 miles this Sunday followed by a 14 miler and the big 20 mile effort before the taper. Getting close to race day now and it is starting to scare me!
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Race day will be easier for the most part for the following reasons.

1. You will be trained, rested, tapered and fuelled.
2. Adrenalin.
3. You will be along side others. Use it to your advantage with friendly chat, or pacing with other runners.
4. The spectators can encourage you...strangers or family friends.
5. Drinks stations and support.
6. Better terrain...depending where you trained.
7. Better weather.

Trust the training. It should work if done properly. It should get you to 20 plus miles if you have paced it right. Only the final few miles may take some mental effort and determination.

Just some words of hope for a positive attitude !!
 
gaz76 said:
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Is a good read for the mental side of running
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Just ordered it. I listen to quite a few podcasts and the mental side of running long distances is fascinating. Hopefully the book will touch on the central governor theory and how the body indicates it is finished but the reality is there is much greater capacity for further effort.
 
franksinatra said:
Just ordered it. I listen to quite a few podcasts and the mental side of running long distances is fascinating. Hopefully the book will touch on the central governor theory and how the body indicates it is finished but the reality is there is much greater capacity for further effort.
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Any recommendations for podcasts? I listen to rich roll a lot, one of the latest ones with johann hari is a good one, not really running related but a good un, theres also one called the "local runners podcast" which is by lads from manchester who I see at a lot of the races, good for motivation.
 
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Any recommendations for podcasts? I listen to rich roll a lot, one of the latest ones with johann hari is a good one, not really running related but a good un, theres also one called the "local runners podcast" which is by lads from manchester who I see at a lot of the races, good for motivation.
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Yes, here are a couple. I find the American podcasts really dig deep into the mental side/nutrition/training intensity/distances and the guests are typically experts in their respective fields.

My go to podcasts are these and usually scroll through the episodes and download one which aligns with my interest.

Science of Ultra (really educational)
Talk Ultra
Way of the Runner (Addarrand Finn who wrote the book about running with the Kenyans)
Koopcast
Wild Ginger running
 
franksinatra said:
Yes, here are a couple. I find the American podcasts really dig deep into the mental side/nutrition/training intensity/distances and the guests are typically experts in their respective fields.

My go to podcasts are these and usually scroll through the episodes and download one which aligns with my interest.

Science of Ultra (really educational)
Talk Ultra
Way of the Runner (Addarrand Finn who wrote the book about running with the Kenyans)
Koopcast
Wild Ginger running
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Cheers mate, will give them a go
 
I did the Portobello Parkrun this morning in... yes, you guessed it, Edinburgh. Three laps of the course, which was fairly flat, all tarmac. I was overtaken when on my second lap by a man who was not only running a lot faster than me, he was simultaneously juggling three balls. Very impressive stuff.
 
gaz76 said:
Any recommendations for podcasts? I listen to rich roll a lot, one of the latest ones with johann hari is a good one, not really running related but a good un, theres also one called the "local runners podcast" which is by lads from manchester who I see at a lot of the races, good for motivation.
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Do you only listen to running-related podcasts? I do the opposite so I can zone out and forget that I'm running! Stuff like Adam Buxton and some BBC stuff that Just One Thing (health) and The Unbelievable Truth (comedy). Interested to hear what others listen to.
 
Paladin said:
I did the Portobello Parkrun this morning in... yes, you guessed it, Edinburgh. Three laps of the course, which was fairly flat, all tarmac. I was overtaken when on my second lap by a man who was not only running a lot faster than me, he was simultaneously juggling three balls. Very impressive stuff.
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Nobody like a smart arse - you should have kicked him over and ran off laughing while he was crawling around trying to get his balls back.
 
Stuuuuuu said:
Do you only listen to running-related podcasts? I do the opposite so I can zone out and forget that I'm running! Stuff like Adam Buxton and some BBC stuff that Just One Thing (health) and The Unbelievable Truth (comedy). Interested to hear what others listen to.
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I dont listen to podcasts when running, just music, but saying that Im tending to go without more now on my runs, seems to be more enjoyable.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Nobody like a smart arse - you should have kicked him over and ran off laughing while he was crawling around trying to get his balls back.
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I wasnt trying to be smart and will have you know I have put a lot of practice in, had murder at the triathlon this morning, since when was a unicycle not deemed to be a bike?
 
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